And they are less credible.
"Iranians Accused of a Plot to Kill Saudis’ U.S. Envoy" by Charlie Savage and Scott Shane, October 11, 2011
WASHINGTON — The United States on Tuesday accused Iranian officials of plotting to murder Saudi Arabia’s ambassador to the United States in a bizarre scheme involving an Iranian-American used-car salesman who believed he was hiring assassins from a Mexican drug cartel for $1.5 million.
The SAME ONE the U.S. GOVERNMENT gave GUNS TO?
The alleged plot also included plans to pay the cartel, Los Zetas, to bomb the Israeli Embassy in Washington and the Saudi and Israeli Embassies in Argentina, according to a law enforcement official.
YUP!
The plotters also discussed a side deal between the Quds Force, part of Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps, and Los Zetas to funnel tons of opium from the Middle East to Mexico, the official said. The plans never progressed, though, because the two suspects — the Iranian-American and an Iranian Quds Force officer — unwittingly were dealing with an informant for the Drug Enforcement Administration, officials said.
Oh, no, ANOTHER FALSE FLAG SET-UP!!
Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr., who announced the murder plot at a news conference in Washington, said it was “directed and approved by elements of the Iranian government and, specifically, senior members of the Quds Force.” He added that “high-up officials in those agencies, which is an integral part of the Iranian government, were responsible for this plot.”
The charges heightened tensions in an already fraught relationship between Iran and the United States.
The Iranian ambassador to the United Nations, Mohammad Khazaee, said his nation was “outraged” about the accusations. In a letter to Secretary General Ban Ki-moon, Mr. Khazaee said that Iran “strongly and categorically rejects these fabricated and baseless allegations, based on the suspicious claims by an individual.”
It SURE is having that SMELL TO IT!!
Saudi Arabia and Iran are locked in a bitter regional rivalry, one that has intensified as they have jockeyed for influence since the political upheavals of the Arab Spring. The Saudi Embassy in Washington denounced the plot against the ambassador, Adel al-Jubeir, as “a despicable violation of international norms, standards and conventions.”
Mr. Holder’s assertion and the F.B.I.’s account of official Iranian involvement in the plot, reportedly code-named “Chevrolet,” provoked puzzlement from specialists on Iran, who said it seemed unlikely that the government would back a brazen murder and bombing plan on American soil.
Even the AmeriKan media isn't biting on this turd. Despite their diminishing circulations and declining ratings even they know they can't smear their somber faces with this one.
Investigators, too, were initially skeptical about ties to Iran, officials said. They said, though, that the F.B.I. monitored calls to Iran about the plot and found money had been wired from a Quds Force bank account.
Hackers? Or did this even happen at all?
In addition, the Iranian-American accused in the scheme, Mansour J. Arbabsiar, correctly identified a known Quds Force officer from a photo array, and his cousin — who he said recruited him for the plot — is another Quds official.
It remained unclear, though, whether the plot was conceived by a rogue element or had approval from top officials of the Revolutionary Guards or the Iranian government.
“It’s so outside their normal track of activity,” said a senior law enforcement official who had been involved in the investigation and would speak only on the condition of anonymity. “It’s a rogue plan or they’re using very different tactics. We just don’t know.”
Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton expressed her incredulity in an interview with The Associated Press.
“The idea that they would attempt to go to a Mexican drug cartel to solicit murder-for-hire to kill the Saudi ambassador, nobody could make that up, right?” she asked, also saying that the plot “crosses a line that Iran needs to be held to account for.”
The bigger the lie the more people will believe it, right?
Mr. Arbabsiar, 56, a naturalized American citizen who lives in Corpus Christi, Tex., was named in a federal criminal complaint in New York along with Gholam Shakuri, whom the Justice Department identified as a member of the Quds Force. Mr. Arbabsiar, who one official said sold used cars for a living, was arrested Sept. 29 at Kennedy International Airport in New York; Mr. Shakuri remains at large and is believed to be in Iran....
And he is a semi-retarded sex-crazed druggie patsy?
Mr. Holder said the United States “is committed to holding Iran accountable for its actions” but declined to answer a question about Iranian officials’ motivation for the alleged plot.
Translation: WE WILL GO TO WAR with ANYONE ISRAEL TELLS US TO!!
Experts on Iran expressed astonishment at both the apparently clumsy tradecraft and the uncertain goal of the intended mayhem on United States soil.
Rasool Nafisi, an Iranian-American scholar who studies the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps, said he thought it unlikely that the plot was approved at a high level by Iranian officials.
Or AT ALL!!
That's where the Globe print ended.
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Related:
Friend: Suspect in ambassador plot 'no mastermind'
A one-time business partner of a former Texas used car dealer accused of plotting to assassinate Saudi Arabia's ambassador says he never thought of his friend as politically motivated, much less involved in a potential terrorist act. David Tomscha tells The Associated Press he briefly owned a used car lot with Manssor Arbabsiar. He says he's "no mastermind," and even is a little lazy.
"The entire claim of an Iranian plot using Mexico drug cartels to assassinate the Saudi ambassador here in the United States is based on a confession acquired after 12 DAYS of interrogation using the methods (water boarding) applied to all suspects in terror "investigations".
This latest in a long line of hoaxes to start wars is already falling apart. Next question: Is Israel and the US desperate enough for war with Iran to stage a major false flag attack inside the United States?
Hell yeah they are!"-- Wake the Flock Up
Also see: Netanyahu Signals Next 9/11
Some preliminary questions about the alleged Iranian terror plot
The “very scary” Iranian terror plot
US Senator Kerry: 'All options' open on Iran plot
The Bullshit Iranian assassination plot against the Saudi ambassador
Iran Sees Terror Plot Accusation as Diversion From Wall Street Protests
Sources: US Gives Israel Green Light For Iran Strike
That's what this is all about, isn't it?
"Iranian Terror Plot: Fake, Fake, Fake; Not even good propaganda by Justin Raimondo, October 12, 2011
Fake, fake, fake – I’m talking about the latest anti-Iranian propaganda coming out of Washington, which claims the Iranian Revolutionary Guards were involved in a “plot” to take out the Saudi ambassador to the US and blow up both the Saudi and Israeli embassies. The narrative reads like a formulaic melodrama: two Iranians, one a naturalized US citizen, purportedly approached someone they thought was a member of a Mexican drug cartel – according to the indictment [.pdf], it was a “sophisticated” drug cartel, not the plebeian sort – and proposed paying him $1.5 million to murder Adel al Jubeir, the Kingdom’s ambassador in Washington – oh, and by the way, the Iranians supposedly said, “Are you guys any good with explosives?”
The key to understanding just how fake this story is can be found in the New York Times report, which informs us:
“For the entire operation, the government’s confidential sources were monitored and guided by federal law enforcement agents, Preet Bharara, the United States Attorney for the Southern District, said in the news conference. ‘So no explosives were actually ever placed anywhere,’ he said, ‘and no one was actually in ever in any danger.’”
Translation: the whole thing is phony from beginning to end.
This is another one of US law enforcement’s manufactured “anti-terrorist” triumphs, where the feds set somebody up, fabricate a “crime” out of thin air, and then proceed to “solve” a case that never really existed to begin with. This has been the general pattern of our “anti-terrorist” operations in the US since the beginning – because finding and catching real terrorists is much too hard, at least for our Keystone Kops. Instead of going out and actually, you know, looking for the Bad Guys, and then apprehending them, they lure some unsuspecting Muslim immigrant into a trap, and spring it when the time is right.
The long narrative spun by the indictment tells us everything but what we really need to know, which is: how is it that these two Iranian “terrorists” just happened to meet up with a Mexican drug cartel assassin who just happened to be a longtime DEA informant? I guess that would be giving too much away: far better to spice up the story with scary details, such as the conversation between one of the alleged plotters and the informant, in the course of which the former says “If you have to blow up the restaurant and kill a hundred Americans, well then f*ck ‘em!”
The credibility rating of this story, taken on its face, is close to zero. Let’s say the Iranians really were plotting to kill the Saudi ambassador on American soil: would they contract it out to the Mexican Mafia, send all kinds of traceable money wires from Iran to the US, and not care if they killed a hundred Americans in the process of achieving their goal? Or would they send some fanatic, who would not only do it for free but also eliminate himself (or herself)? This flimsy cock-eyed tale is so transparently fake that it’s an embarrassment to the United States of America. Can’t our spooks do better than this?
This fabrication marks a new trend in the field of anti-Iranian war propaganda. Previously, the War Party was relying on the same technique they used in the run-up to the invasion of Iraq: the old “weapons of mass destruction” gambit. The big problem with that is it’s old, and tired: no one believes it anymore [.pdf]. Once burned, twice shy, as the saying goes. This latest lie is a fresh angle on a continuing theme, merely substituting Iran for the traditional bogeyman known as al-Qaeda.
That this story involves the Mexican drug cartels, and Attorney General Eric Holder proclaiming that we’re going to “hold the Iranian government accountable,” has got to be some kind of sick joke: after all, here is a man who stood by and watched while US law enforcement agents let guns travel over the US border to arm those very same cartels. Is this “coup” for the Justice Department the pay-off for that harebrained scheme – and when is Holder going to be held accountable?
That our government would float a narrative like this without any apparent regard for the basic rules of fiction-writing – create believable characters who do believable things – is Washington’s way of showing contempt for the Iranians, the American people, and anyone else who stands in the way of their war agenda. They don’t care if it’s not believable. They think Americans will swallow anything, that we’re too busy trying to survive day-to-day, these days, to inquire much further than the “official” account. And of course our brain-dead media, which is reduced to a chiefly stenographic role, isn’t going to ask any inconvenient questions.
This story is very scary – not because it’s credible, or believable, because it is neither. However, it’s the most frightening story I’ve heard in quite a while because it shows that the US government is bound and determined to go to war with Iran, no matter what the consequences. Throwing caution to the winds, our rulers have decided to go all out against Tehran – all the better to mask our current economic malaise under the damage done by the tripling and quadrupling of oil prices. This way, Obama can blame our crashing economy on Tehran, rather than his own discredited policies – and sideline the Republicans, who have been criticizing him for being “soft” on Iran.
The making of American foreign policy is all about domestic politics. By preparing the country for war with Iran, Obama will not only defang the GOP, but also appease the all-important Israel lobby, which has been beating the war drums for years.
What Obama and his gang are hoping is that the American people are too tired, too beaten down, and too broke to care enough about this latest exercise in war propaganda to question it. Certainly the “mainstream” media, which is Obama’s loudest cheering section, isn’t about to question it.
Here is where the administration has probably miscalculated: people are just angry enough to wonder “why now?” They’re just broke enough to resent being asked to pay for yet another holy crusade overseas. And they’re just tired enough of the bullsh*t that gets reported as “news” day after day to start asking all kinds of uncomfortable questions about this latest offering by the Washington fable factory.
The Americans are already backing away from the assertion that the Iranian government is directly responsible for the actions of these two individuals, averring that top Iranian officials didn’t “necessarily” know what was going on. As the details of this case become known, Holder’s story is going to start unraveling like a substandard sweater....
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"Transparent Lies from the Division of Dumb and Dumber
Dog Poet Transmitting……
May your noses always be cold and wet.
Well, we knew the day was coming. We knew it was a matter of time and it would probably happen in October a few days, a week, ten days before Palestine went to the UN and laid claim to a small portion of what had always been theirs, until the false nation of Israel stole it in order to set up a criminal enterprise that now has a large part of the world on the brink of; who knows what? Doubt the reality of that? Then reality isn’t a familiar resident in whatever world you have convinced yourself is real.
So now, the incredibly corrupt, Eric Holder of Fast and Furious Fame; a division of Dumb and Dumber has come up with a bad network TV shitcom plot of a fabricated event, that actually took place in June, though it probably didn’t even happen then. Oh, let’s go out on a limb and say that none of what’s reported really happened but that whatever happened was constructed by Holder’s neo-con Israeli masters, who pretty much control what remains of the so-called American government, as well as the American economy and that can be seen in the stupendous and outrageous wealth consolidated in the holdings of this small minority of dual nationals in the occupied American territories. Of course, that statement is anti-Semitic due to its being true.
Of course, the Israelis had to throw in a fantasy assault on Saudi Arabia because Israel wants that airspace open when they go to attack the Iranians, as one more expression in the expansion of their psychopathic, hegemonic interests in the Middle East which, as far as they are concerned, belongs entirely to them. Iran has no nuclear weapons program and Iran is not at war with her neighbors, while both of these things apply entirely to Israel, to the exclusion of just about everyone else around.
It’s desperation time in the US because a small contingent of Satanic greedheads have destroyed the American infrastructure, from manufacturing to the small business industry, while also looting the wealth of the American public AND plunging the country into a series of gratuitous wars, for the economic gain of bankers and merchants of war material. They don’t give a shit and they think you are too stupid to get it and too weak and confused to do anything about it. Every one of the participants should be indicted, hauled into court and then sent packing to some iron bar resort for a long, long time, or in some cases, convicted of capital crimes. Unfortunately, the judiciary of the United States is also owned by the same people doing all this malicious mischief.
These soulless husks celebrate their depravity, as they preen and posture in their contempt of you. I don’t know what you’re going to do about it. I don’t know how bad it has to get before you do something about it. Eric Holder is not the only full time employee of Dumb and Dumber. He’s got all kinds of company. It’s hard to imagine what kind of stupidity one has to come into the possession of in order to believe the transparent lies and clumsy gymnastics, of the ones who manipulate and shear them like the complacent and unresisting sheep that they are. I can’t measure it. I don’t understand it. It is beyond me.
There’s no need for me to link any of the information I am talking about today because it’s all over the media, which is also owned by the same people that own everything else. The other side of the story is available in the alternative media that most of you visit every day. So bogus and transparent are the lies being told that they are already hedging their bets by actually using the word ‘alleged’....
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"Ahmadinejad isn’t likely suspect in assassination plot, Iranian analysts say" by Thomas Erdbrink Washington Post / October 13, 201
TEHRAN - As Iranians struggled yesterday to comprehend an alleged plot to assassinate the Saudi ambassador to Washington, analysts here agreed that even if US charges of official Iranian involvement were true, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and his government probably had nothing to do with the scheme....
Even the CORPORATE MEDIA is BACKING OFF this STINKING POS!!
Even against the backdrop of this power struggle, Iranian dissidents and analysts are hard-pressed to come up with reasons for any of Iran’s leaders to undertake such a risky plot. Even if carried out successfully, it probably would have been quickly blamed on Iran, the analysts noted....
What is clear, analysts said, is that the Islamic Republic’s security organizations are currently a black hole for the Ahmadinejad government, which is increasingly under fire from Intelligence Ministry officials as well as Revolutionary Guard commanders and hard-line Shi’ite clerics.
Sounds like Ahmadinejad is in the same position JFK found himself about 1962!
These critics recently called Ahmadinejad’s chief of staff and main adviser, Esfandiar Rahim Mashaei, a “tumor’’ that needs to be cut out of the government.
Related:
"Mashaei is also despised by hard-liners for... his statements suggesting Iran can oppose Israel’s government but can be friendly with the Israeli people."
That's Ahmadinejad's man?
Wow, did my Zionist-controlled Amerikan media ever mislead me about that guy.
I wonder what else they are misleading me about (try like, everything).
They have also threatened to launch impeachment proceedings against Ahmadinejad if he refuses to cut ties with advisers they describe as bent on undermining the influence of the country’s ruling clerics.
Ahmadinejad publicly fell from grace in April when he tried to fire Intelligence Minister Heidar Moslehi, a Shi’ite cleric, but was forced to back down when Khamenei, the supreme leader, reinstated him.
See: Iran's Insecure Supreme Leader
Replacing Moslehi with someone from Ahmadinejad’s inner circle would have strengthened the president’s hand in the ministry. Now Ahmadinejad is facing public attacks from his former hard-line backers, who accuse him, among other things, of planning to restore relations with the United States.
That's the Iranian demon and next Hitler?
Some analysts speculate that the alleged plot to kill the Saudi ambassador was engineered by the Revolutionary Guards but was meant to be discovered by US intelligence in order to sabotage any back-channel talks between Ahmadinejad’s representatives and the United States.
Excuse me one moment.
HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA
I've never had a piece of s*** make me laugh so hard!!
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And now Obama is out peddling this turd?
"Obama blames plot to kill Saudi diplomat on Iran" by Ben Feller AP White House Correspondent / October 13, 2011
WASHINGTON—President Barack Obama said Thursday that officials at the "highest levels" of the Iranian government must be held accountable for a brazen and bizarre plot to assassinate the Saudi ambassador to the United States on American soil, insisting leaders of the world will believe the U.S. case without dispute once they absorb the details....
Your OWN PEOPLE AREN'T EVEN BUYING IT, shithead!
Obama called it part of a pattern of "dangerous and reckless behavior" by the Iranian government....
U.S. officials have described it as a remarkably clumsy but deadly serious operation....
Obama is seeking a vigorous response from around the world....
"We've laid the facts before them," Obama said of world leaders. He said once they analyze them, "there will not be a dispute" over what happened.
Doesn't that just RING of BUSH and IRAQ? Some CHANGE, huh?
The State Department conceded Thursday that the response from foreign governments was initially skeptical.
"When you look at these details, it seems like something out of a movie," said department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland.
That's because it is LITERALLY a SCRIPT!!
"And that's always the first reaction. That was the first reaction when this effort was briefed to some senior folks in this government," she said. "But as you begin to give more detail on what we knew and when we knew it and how we knew it, it has credibility."
What's that smell, readers?
At the United Nations, American allies said the U.S. evidence of an Iranian plot was convincing, but Russia and China reacted with caution....
Obama made the case that Iran is acting outside all norms of international behavior and that, in turn, it finds itself increasingly isolated.
Then they can pair up with Israel.
He said with that every violation, the United States and its allies will make sure Iran's leaders "pay a price."
To WAR -- and we are not talking a movie, either!!!!!!!!
I'll see you in hell, Obama.
In a standard allusion to military intervention, Obama said that he would remove no option of U.S. response....
He SOUNDS JUST LIKE George Bush, doesn't he?
Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton and other U.S. officials say the alleged plot is more evidence that Iran is the world's leading state sponsor of terrorism, a label Washington has for decades applied to the Iranian government.
Yeah, U.S. SET-UPS and LIES are considered "evidence."
And they wonder why we DON'T BELIEVE a DAMN WORD that comes out their mass-murdering, war-criminal mouths?
The officials also say it underscores concerns that despite its denials Iran is trying to develop nuclear weapons under cover of a civilian atomic energy program....
To WAR!!
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Related: No One Is Buying Iranian Terror Allegations
FBI Insider: Obama Administration Likely Manufactured Dubious Terror Plot
Retired U.S. Army Lieutenant Colonel Anthony Shaffer says that an FBI insider told him the dubious terror plot to assassinate a Saudi ambassador which has been blamed on Iran was likely manufactured by the Obama administration, because no information about the plot even exists within FBI channels.
A top Senate Dem says Iran plot may be act of war
Okay, Senator, Here's your parachute and here is your rifle. Please watch your step climbing into that airplane, and we'll call Iran and tell them you are on your way. For the rest of us, with the memory of Iraq's non-existent nuclear weapons still fresh in our memories, a confession extracted from a used car salesman in Texas after 12 days of presumed water boarding is insufficient reason to attack a nation that has not attacked us, nor to distract us from the economy, from Fast and Furious gun and drug running by the government, or from the still-growing OccupyAMERICA movement.
You might think that war with Iran (which means war with Russia) is going to solve all your problems, but We The People know otherwise, and we refuse to go along with throwing what is left of our money and the lives of our children onto the bayonets of yet another of Israel's many enemies. If you are so inclined, feel free to use your own money and your own children. Otherwise, shut the fuck up....
Folks, stop and think.
Setting aside the long track record of lies by the US and Israeli governments, just ask yourself these questions.
1. Why would Iran want to assassinate the Saudi ambassador? Ambassadors are not decision makers. They are glorified messengers and in these days of instant global communications no longer enjoy the autonomous plenipotentiary powers they did in the days of sailing ships. There is no reason to kill an ambassador because another one representing the same exact government policies would arrive the very next day.
2. Why would Iran involve Mexican drug cartels? Drug cartels are great at smuggling and slicing up competition and informants with chain saws, but are not known for skills at diplomatic assassination.
3. Why do such a pointless killing inside the United States, knowing the US is looking for any excuse at all to launch a war?
People, the US and Israel are in a panic. OccupyAMERICA is growing and the corporate media are unable to get a handle with which to ridicule and dismiss it. In desperation the plan is to launch a major war with Iran which will mean war with Russia, then use that resulting World War to demand the American people forget all about Wall Street's mortgage-backed security fraud, all about the ruined economy, all about the other wars, all about the lies, salute the flag, and throw our money and our children onto the bayonets of Israel's enemies on command.
Because that's what worked the last two times.
And the only people who can stop this are YOU.
I need all of you to drop what you are doing and call your local TV station, your local newspapers, your congresscritters and tell them in no uncertain terms that you know this Iranian plot is total bullshit and you refuse to fight any more wares to save Israel or to save Wall Street. Then call all your friends and family and ask them to do the same. Do it now. Tomorrow may be too late. To delay is to lose.
If we do not choose to fight against these money-junkies now, we will soon have no choice but to fight for the money-junkies from now on!
If they get this war they want launched, none of us will ever live to see a time of peace again.
Is that the world you want to leave to your children?
Get angry. Make noise. Be heard. Be seen.
Be an American! Do the right thing" -- Wake the Flock Up
Next Day Update:
"Obama vows to seek 'toughest’ Iran sanctions" by Helene Cooper New York Times / October 14, 2011
WASHINGTON - Obama’s comments came as Iran escalated its rebuttal of the US charges, saying the claims were so ludicrous that even politicians and press in the United States were expressing skepticism about such a scheme.
Iran’s state-run media was dominated yesterday by rejections of the US charges. Press TV, an English-language news website controlled by the Iranian government, quoted the foreign minister, Ali Akbar Salehi, calling the charges part of a new propaganda campaign. The official Islamic Republic News Agency quoted Ali Ahani, the deputy foreign minister, as saying that “the absurd and conspiratorial scenario was made so immaturely that even political circles and media of the US and its allies were suspicious about it.’’
Appearing next to the South Korean president, who was in Washington for a state visit, Obama promised to “apply the toughest sanctions and continue to mobilize the international community to make sure that Iran is further and further isolated and pays a price for this kind of behavior.’’
Obama said that all options are on the table - a diplomatic signal that he would not rule out military strikes - but administration officials privately say it is highly unlikely that the United States would respond militarily.
Translation: The fraud didn't take.
Instead, the administration will try to persuade Russia, China, Europe, and India to endorse tougher sanctions against Tehran, a strategy which has had limited success, as Russia and China in particular have been wary about going too far in a direction that officials say could hurt commercial interests in those countries....
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