Then it means war, doesn't it?
"Talks here appeared to be marked by brinkmanship. The negotiations also are being watched with a wary eye by Israel, Saudi Arabia, and many US lawmakers who fear Iran. If an agreement is announced Monday, it probably would not be a complete one, and an extension in the deadline is growing more likely."
So much for the brinksmanship.
I love the swirling, steaming stink of agenda-pushing, war-promoting deception and distortion in the morning, don't you?
As for fearing Iran, I don't. I fear my own government and Israel. They are the lying war makers in this world.
But what if they have a nuke they are not building? So what? We have THOUSANDS of them, and were Iran to use its only weapon we would wipe them off the face of the earth and no one would give us no never mind.
Of course, such an event would have to be, by definition, a false flag USraeli plot as we have seen these last dozen years or so.
"US should accept a good deal with Iran, but not just any deal" November 15, 2014
An agreement that puts verifiable limits on Iran’s nuclear program, increases transparency, and clears up concerns about weapons-related research — in exchange for the lifting of sanctions — would be a boon for the United States, Iran, and the global economy.
And it would upset a certain chosen stain of a state in the Middle East that has its hands on the balls of the AmeriKan Congre$$ and executive.
But it’s doubtful that Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei will sign on.
So says my Zionist war pusher known as a paper.
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This is unfortunate, because a deal would unchain the aspirations of Iran’s 80 million people, who have lived under some form of sanctions or another for 35 years. It could also loosen the grip of hardliners on Iranian society, who benefit handsomely from the black market economy created by sanctions. A good deal would also be better for the United States and its allies than the alternatives: allowing Iran’s nuclear program to inch forward unchecked, or bombing Iran’s nuclear sites, which would further inflame the already tumultuous region and give Iran a good excuse to kick out United Nations inspectors, withdraw from the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty, and race for a nuclear weapon as soon as possible.
Recently, Khamenei announced a series of “red lines” in English via his Twitter account that make a deal look all but impossible.
Was it really him?
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If Iran were a trusted country....
Imagine if the U.S. were. Imagine if I could trust this rank-rot paper.
Iran’s goal looks tiny, but since there are still too many unanswered questions....
In truth....
Like I would be finding that in my agenda-pushing war promoter called a newspaper.
In a more
perfect world....
I tried. For eight long years I have been here trying....
But in
order to preserve the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty, and avoid an
arms race in the Middle East, it is crucial to prevent Iran from
obtaining a nuclear weapon, if that is Tehran’s goal....
What about all the U.S friends and allies that haven't signed it? Israel and Pakistan come to mind for starters.
The amazing thing there is the "IF that is Tehran's goal."
Even the Globe is admitting, yeah, they HAVE NOT and ARE NOT BUILDING ONE!
A bad deal
would be worse than no deal at all.
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Looks like no deal:
"Kerry in diplomatic overdrive on Iran nuclear deal" by Matthew Lee and Bradley Klapper, Associated Press November 20, 2014
LONDON — Oman is unique among the Gulf Arab states for its close ties with Iran, holding high-level nuclear talks this month and serving as the site of secret US-Iranian gatherings dating back to 2012. Those discussions laid the groundwork for an interim agreement reached a year ago....
Israel was angry when they found out about those talks.
Too bad Obummer is such a sphincter on other fronts, although I did say my one qualification for president is will they stand up to Israel.
He's not really standing up to them, though. The weapons and aid checks keep flowing (no executive action there). It's more like a half-assed rise out of the seat to let loose some gas.
In Paris, Secretary of State John Kerry will meet Saudi Foreign Minister Saud al-Faisal and French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius. Those meetings are key because French objections last year delayed the adoption of an interim agreement by several weeks, and Saudi Arabia remains deeply concerned about the potential for its arch-rival Iran to win concessions from the West.
The Obama administration also is trying to satisfy concerns in Congress, where many now see an extension of talks as preferable to an agreement. Republicans in particular want more time so that they can attempt to pass sanctions legislation that would pressure Iran into greater concessions.
Certainly more preferable than war, deal or no deal.
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He's going to keep pushing....
"Iran judge disbarred over protester deaths" Associated Press November 17, 2014
TEHRAN — Iran’s Supreme Court has disbarred a hard-line judge over his role in the death by torture of at least three jailed antigovernment protesters in 2009, the semiofficial ISNA news agency reported.
Saeed Mortazavi, an ally of former president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, has also been barred from all government positions for five years, ISNA reported late Saturday.
A parliamentary inquiry in 2010 found Mortazavi responsible in the torturing to death of at least three antigovernment protesters detained during mass demonstrations following Ahmadinejad’s disputed reelection in 2009. At the time, he was Tehran prosecutor general and responsible for Kahrizak prison in the Iranian capital.
Mortazavi has rejected the allegations, and ISNA quoted him as saying he was convicted because of ‘‘exercise of opinion and derailing the case from its legal path.’’
The three prisoners, who were detained in the unprecedented protests following Ahmadinejad’s reelection, died in Kahrizak a month after their arrest. The case embarrassed Iranian authorities and ignited fierce criticism of the government.
Isn't that something?
Iran holds authorities and judges that approve of torture accountable; in AmeriKa, we have a Supreme Court that approves of the conduct and a public that really doesn't care.
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Speaking of torture (yeah, still doing it but now at sea), I'm sorry this blog is a piece of Shi'ite.
NEXT DAY UPDATE:
"In Iran talks, US seeks to prevent a covert weapon; Years of distrust, Monday deadline add to pressure" by David E. Sanger and William J. Broad, New York Times November 23, 2014
(Blog editor groans)
VIENNA — Behind the efforts to close a nuclear deal with Iran this weekend lies a sensitive question that has been little discussed in public: how to design an agreement to maximize the chances that Western intelligence agencies would catch any effort to develop an atomic bomb at a covert site.
In other words, the war-makers and their lead mouthpiece here are scraping the bottom the barrel when it comes to excuses rejecting peace.
Concern over the possibility of a future Iranian covert program — and the difficulty of writing a document that deals with the unknown — is rooted in a long history of distrust. But it has been rarely mentioned publicly by negotiators here as Secretary of State John Kerry and his European allies press a last-minute effort to resolve more immediate differences.
Did they just move goal posts?
The biggest disagreement centers on how much capacity to make nuclear fuel Iran could retain, and how quickly sanctions would be suspended in return for an agreement.
Those efforts focus on the fate of Iran’s three major declared nuclear facilities, and on lengthening the time it would take for Iran to produce enough fuel for a single bomb. But those declared facilities are crawling with inspectors and cameras.
Translation: Iran has done everything asked of them.
Unstated is the fear of an even more problematic issue, referred to as “sneakout.” It covers the risk of a bomb being produced at an undetected facility deep in the Iranian mountains, or built from fuel and components obtained from one of the few trading partners happy to do business with Tehran, such as North Korea.
You mean, like the ones Israel developed after stealing material for them from the U.S.?
I'm sorry, folks, but this Sunday morning I'm simply in no mood for more Jewish war rot propaganda. I'm just not.
To try to make sneakout more difficult and risky, scientists from US Department of Energy national laboratories and intelligence officers for months have been providing ideas to negotiators and scouring the drafts of proposed language in the agreement.
The goal is to “make as airtight as possible” the language that would allow highly intrusive inspections to track the precursors and parts that feed Iran’s uranium complex, according to one participant in the talks.
The US officials are highly attuned to the findings of a once-classified 2007 National Intelligence Estimate that concluded Iran had ended its headlong race for a bomb in late 2003.
If they were ever really building one.
You don't think I'm believing or taking at face value some garbage NYT spin, do you?
That deal is done, and I never touch a New York Times, haven't for over six years now. If I mistakenly do, I feel like I've been dirtied and need a wash.
But it also concluded that smaller-scale activity continues, and warned that “Iran probably would use covert facilities — rather than its declared sites — for the production of highly enriched uranium for a weapon.”
Yeah, except you can't do that to build a nuclear bomb. Industrial capacity that the world can't miss is needed, meaning this is all war-mongering nonsense meant to confusion and gin up emotion.
Does the NYT and its masters actually think all these lies will work matter Iraq, or do they just want so much shit on the wall that we are all covered with it and they can pick what they want and say, see, see?
I have to confess, the LAST INSTITUTION on this earth that I would believe these days is the NEW YORK TIMES!
As the Monday deadline to reach an agreement nears, it is far from clear that the Iranians will agree to these inspections, or allow them to take place if an agreement is in place.
Real brinksmanship -- until an extension of talks is announced tomorrow.
Already, hard-liners in Tehran including Reza Seraj, identified in Iranian news media as the “head of the intelligence faculty of the Revolutionary Guards Corps,” a previously unknown position, are warning of the consequences.
“This will mean they will get permissions for reconnaissance flights over our country and that their inspectors can enter anywhere, even the presidential palace,” Seraj wrote in a column published by the semiofficial Fars news agency.
That's what they did in Iraq after U.S. intelligence infiltrated the U.N. inspection teams in an effort to locate and kill Saddam.
The threat from covert activities was driven home in the first intelligence briefings given the incoming Obama administration in late 2008 and early 2009, when the president and his aides learned about the evidence that Iran was constructing a hidden centrifuge facility in a mountain outside the holy city of Qum that was so deep it could withstand all but America’s largest bunker-busting bomb. President Obama revealed the existence of that facility, called Fordo, in late 2009.
Actually, Iran declared it before Obama revealed it, but who wants to constantly quibble about NYT's deceptions and distortions? I have better things to do.
Couldn't have been hidden if they knew about it, right? I mean.... SIGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In the recent run-up to what officials believed would be a climactic weekend in Vienna, teams of American, British, Israeli, and European intelligence agencies have been looking for clues of another clandestine site. So far, they say, they have found no evidence of another large undeclared plant. “It’s an endless game of hide-and-seek,” one senior European intelligence chief said recently.
Uh-huh.
And if there is NOTHING TO FIND?!!!!!!!
US negotiators want an agreement that gives inspectors the right to roam the nation widely.
Would "WE" ACCEPT such a thing?
NO, we DO NOT! The U.N. is BANNED from inspecting U.S. sites.
This type of rank double standards and hypocrisy combined with pure power politics of this propaganda is most disgusting.
From 2003 to 2006, inspectors did a lot of that, under an International Atomic Energy Agency agreement that commits countries to opening up atomic facilities and sites they have long kept off limits.
Last year, Iran signed a temporary agreement with the West that gave inspectors access to a handful of such isolated sites, including mines and mills, from which uranium fuel originates. An even wider set of rules would potentially be part of a permanent agreement.
Similarly, officials say, there needs to be intense monitoring of the manufacturing and shipment of centrifuges so the atomic energy agency could track the location of each one.
Visiting sites alone is not likely to provide those assurances, officials say. US officials are also monitoring the activities of the long list of Iranian scientists — many of them under sanctions issued by the UN Security Council and the United States — believed to have been associated with Iran’s program to develop nuclear arms.
No mention of the assassination and sabotage campaign being carried out by the CIA and its related allies and assets, of course.
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