Saturday, June 19, 2010

Ireland Like Iraq

So is it going to take the British another 40 years to admit Bliar's lies (btw, whatever happened with that inquiry) and admit they mowed down and murdered innocent people?

"1972 ‘Bloody Sunday’ report due; Analysts expect British soldiers to be held at fault" by Shawn Pogatchnik, Associated Press | June 13, 2010

DUBLIN — “Bloody Sunday,’’ the 1972 atrocity in which British soldiers gunned down 14 Catholic demonstrators in bitterly disputed circumstances, faces a moment of truth when a 5,000-page report that cost $290 million and took 12 years to produce is finally unveiled this week.

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Sunday, bloody Sunday

Before Bono was a globalist?

Politicians and analysts said last week that they expect the lead investigator, an English judge named Lord Saville, to conclude that soldiers committed illegal killings of unarmed Catholic civilians. That would confirm the long-held views of thousands of witnesses, two British governments, and even some of the testifying soldiers that the 1st Battalion of the elite Parachute Regiment went wild on the streets of Londonderry 38 years ago.

So WHY DID IT TAKE SO LONG to GET the TRUTH, GOVERNMENT?!?!?!!!!

The Bloody Sunday killings — combined with Britain’s insistence at the time that the soldiers were defending themselves from weapons-wielding Irish Republican Army members — infuriated the Catholic minority in Northern Ireland and spurred the outlawed IRA into its own increasingly brutal acts. The year 1972 became the deadliest turning point of a four-decade conflict.

Oh, how ISRAELI of them.

But the key question now is whether Tuesday’s release of Saville’s epic fact-finding exercise, the biggest in British legal history involving 921 oral witnesses and 250 volumes of evidence, will heal communal wounds in support of Northern Ireland’s peace process — or just stir up more courtroom fights.

How come everything in the "free" West ends up in court?

Saville gave the paratroopers who opened fire that day anonymity in the witness box and broad protections from criminal charges.

Oh, they shield their war criminals just as the U.S. does.

Must be something about empires.

But legal analysts say wiggle room remains for prosecutions and civil lawsuits against retired soldiers now in their 60s and 70s, particularly if lawyers can demonstrate the soldiers told lies to Saville.

The Guardian newspaper reported Friday that families of Bloody Sunday victims are particularly hopeful of pursuing a former paratrooper identified only as Soldier F who stands accused of committing perjury during his Saville testimony. Soldier F is suspected of shooting four to six civilians.

He has an Israeli blood brother that just did that to a bunch of Palestinian activists.

The surviving Bloody Sunday victims publicly stress the need for vindication of the dead, not vengeance against their killers.

“Saville is about setting the truth free. We want a declaration of innocence for our people,’’ said John Kelly, whose 17-year-old brother Michael was shot to death that day.

It is HAPPENING all over this very moment as the COSMOS DEMAND!

The original 1972 investigation by another English judge, Lord Widgery, took barely two months to produce a 39-page report that chided soldiers for gunfire that “bordered on the reckless.’’ But Widgery accepted soldiers’ claims to be responding to IRA attacks and said he suspected — despite any solid forensic or witness evidence beyond the soldiers’ own claims — that some of those killed “had been firing weapons or handling bombs in the course of the afternoon.’’

David Trimble, the Nobel Peace Prize laureate who led Protestants into Northern Ireland’s 1998 peace accord, told The Guardian newspaper that he had long opposed the idea of a new inquiry because it would be certain to provide fresh ammunition for those seeking to convict or sue the soldiers involved.

I'm NOT SURPRISED he felt that way:

"Trimble — who, like most Protestants in Northern Ireland, closely identifies with Israel"

Gee, that NOBEL PRIZE looks more and more WORTHLESS every day.

Nothing more than a GLOBALIST AWARD from the Jew World Order!

No soldiers suffered injuries during the 30-minute shooting, which took place at the end of a banned march by 10,000 Irish nationalists opposed to Britain’s then-policy of interning IRA suspects without trial.

Almost as if they were asking for it, 'eh, PoS paper?

Several IRA witnesses — including Martin McGuinness, who today is the senior Catholic in Northern Ireland’s power-sharing government — testified before Saville that their members were unarmed.

Adrian Guelke, who teaches politics at Queen’s University of Belfast, said the Saville report would be certain to repudiate Widgery’s weak judgment, but stood little chance of ending wider arguments about the rights and wrongs of Bloody Sunday.

As if there were still some debate.

Sigh.

What could EVER BE RIGHT about MOWING DOWN UNARMED CIVILIANS?

“But British policy changed remarkably quickly on several fronts after the tragedy. Britain never behaved that way again in Northern Ireland,’’ Guelke said.

Almost as if they had a GUILTY CONSCIENCE!

Besides, it probably unified most Irish and backfired. State terror always does.

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Looks like the Globe tried to wash some of the blood off:

"Bloody Sunday report blames British soldiers fully" by Peter Morrison, David Stringer and Shawn Pogatchnik, Associated Press Writers | June 15, 2010

LONDONDERRY, Northern Ireland --Relatives of 13 Catholic demonstrators shot to death by British troops on Northern Ireland's Bloody Sunday cried tears of joy Tuesday as an epic fact-finding probe ruled that their loved ones were innocent and the soldiers entirely to blame for the 1972 slaughter.

The investigation took 12 years and nearly $290 million, but the victims' families and the British, Irish and U.S. governments welcomed the findings as priceless to heal one of the gaping wounds left from Northern Ireland's four-decade conflict that left 3,700 dead....

Then they ain't worth s***.

The probe found that soldiers opened fire without justification at unarmed, fleeing civilians and lied about it for decades, refuting an initial British investigation that branded the demonstrators as Irish Republican Army bombers and gunmen....

But BELIEVE what GOVERNMENTS and MSM TELL YOU now!!

PFFFFFFFTTT!

THEY HAVEN'T CHANGED ONE BIT!!!!

The Bloody Sunday Inquiry was led by English judge Lord Saville. He gave the ex-paratroopers, now in their 60s and 70s, broad protections from criminal charges as well as anonymity in the witness box, citing the risk that IRA dissidents might target them in retaliation....

The 5,000-page report is based on evidence from 921 witnesses, 2,500 written statements and 60 volumes of written evidence....

None of those killed or wounded that day in Londonderry had posed a threat to the soldiers, Saville concluded.

Saville's conclusions included damning new findings, including that soldiers fired twice at 22-year-old James Wray -- once as he ran away, a second fatally after he was on the ground....

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Gee, they ALL seem to behave the SAME WAY no matter where they are from.

The demonstrators were protesting the internment without trial of IRA suspects.

So GOVERNMENT TYRANNY of this sort has been GOING ON FOREVER, huh?

And the British government has the NERVE to LECTURE OTHERS on human rights!

The report said some soldiers fired knowing their victims were unarmed, and may have concluded all protesters were tied to IRA factions and therefore legitimate targets.

And so are these soldiers -- for a firing squad.

"It is at least possible that they did so in the indefensible belief that all the civilians they fired at were probably either members of the Provisional or Official IRA or were supporters of one or other of these paramilitary organizations, and so deserved to be shot," the report said.

Even calling it indefensible is a defense.

It is what the soldier believed, right?

He felt he was in danger from unarmed people so blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam!!!!!!

The report did find that one demonstrator killed, 17-year-old Gerald Donaghey, was a junior Provisional IRA member who was carrying four homemade grenades, called nail bombs, in his pockets. But it said Donaghey was running away when shot and posed no risk to soldiers.

And now he has HOLES in his POCKETS!

And WHY WAS THIS CUT from my PRINTED PAPER REPORT?

Bloody Sunday justice campaigners long had claimed that the nail bombs, photographed inside the pockets of Donaghey's jacket at an army morgue, had been planted by soldiers trying to justify their shooting.

Oh, THAT NEVER HAPPENS!!!

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Hey, THEIR SUPERIORS do it ALL the TIME!

Saville also concluded that former IRA commander Martin McGuinness, now the senior Catholic in Northern Ireland's power-sharing government, probably was carrying a submachine gun during Bloody Sunday, based on other witnesses' testimony. The judge said, however, that no evidence existed to suggest that McGuinness had used the gun in a manner "that provided any of the soldiers with any justification for opening fire."

Yeah, but....

McGuinness, who in sworn testimony said he was unarmed, rejected Saville's charge. "I am absolutely denying that," he said.

Well, SOMEONE is LYING!!

Analysts said Saville's finding appeared likely to stir tensions between McGuinness and Protestants in the 3-year-old coalition, the centerpiece of the Good Friday peace deal.

The inquiry was originally budgeted to cost 11 million pounds and report findings by 2002. Instead, the final bill was estimated at nearly 200 million pounds -- making it the longest and most expensive inquiry in British legal history. Cameron said Britain would never attempt anything like it again....

Translation: The IRAQ WAR CRIMES will NEVER BE INVESTIGATED by the British government.

What a PoS!

I feel sorry for British people.

"What happened on Bloody Sunday strengthened the Provisional IRA, increased (Irish) nationalist resentment and hostility towards the army, and exacerbated the violent conflict of the years that followed. Bloody Sunday was a tragedy for the bereaved and the wounded, and a catastrophe for the people of Northern Ireland," Saville said.

The judge took evidence from former British government officials, the soldiers who opened fire that day and IRA members involved in the protest. He ruled that a few IRA men did come armed to the demonstration, but the soldiers fired the shots that started the one-sided bloodbath....

Saville's findings declared that several soldiers who opened fire concocted cover stories to justify shooting unarmed people in the back....

And back to the print:

The original 1972 investigation by another English judge, Lord Widgery, took barely two months to produce a brief report that chided soldiers for gunfire that "bordered on the reckless." But Widgery accepted soldiers' claims that they had been responding to IRA attacks....

That's where they ended it.

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Also see: Britain takes full blame for Bloody Sunday (By John F. Burns, New York Times)

That's what was in the web version.

It's
all yours, readers.

Related:

"DUBLIN — British Army specialists defused a 300-pound bomb left by Irish Republican Army dissidents in a van outside the police station in a Northern Ireland border village yesterday, police said.

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You sure about that, MSM?

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Adams Knows!

Knows who left a bomb in a van!!!