That means another charge on the list of war crimes.
"Like his decision to seek congressional votes in the first place, Obama was trying to break out of his isolation in terms of military action against Syria."
That's why he is dragging in Congress and now the whole world. He also wants the blood to be on your hands! How cynical, and quite frankly, EVIL!
Btw, where is the vast coalition he was going to assemble, blah, blah, blah?
"Obama urges allies to support Syria plans" by Peter Baker | New York Times, September 05, 2013
STOCKHOLM — President Obama declared Wednesday that the confrontation with Syria over chemical weapons was not a personal test for him but for Congress, the United States, and the world as he worked to strengthen support at home and abroad for a punitive strike.
How do you "strengthen" something you do not have?
Wonderful war propaganda and useful word manipulation, isn't it?
Opening a three-day trip overseas at a delicate moment for his presidency, Obama challenged lawmakers and allies to stand behind his plans for a cruise missile attack on the government of President Bashar Assad in retaliation for what the Obama administration has concluded was a chemical attack that killed 1,400 people in the suburbs of the Syrian capital, Damascus, last month.
It's already a failure. That is a signal to Obomber from the Zionist string-pullers that he is out if he does not do this. They will release whatever dirt they have on him through their mouthpiece media organs and he will either be forced to resign or impeached.
“I didn’t set a red line,” Obama said during a news conference in Stockholm. “The world set a red line.”
Don't go dragging us into this thing!
Oh, btw, the WORLD is SAYING NO to this. No red line crossed.
Obama laid blame for the Aug. 21 attack directly on Assad, whose government is known to have enormous stockpiles of banned chemical munitions including sarin gas, a nerve agent that US intelligence has said was deployed in a rebel-held part of the Damascus suburbs.
Too bad, because the word coming out now is the U.S.-supported Al-CIA-Duh insurgents used chlorine gas -- if it happened at all.
Once again U.S. "intelligence" got it wrong, huh?
Related:
"Chances are that these unnamed sources are actually
foreign-funded insurgents, Israeli media, Saudi media, the Syrian
Observatory for Human Rights - which includes fighters in the
ranks of the insurgency and salutes Saudi Arabia as a model
democracy - or the NGO Doctors Without Borders. These are the
same sources that have been supporting the insurgency and pushing
for regime change and military intervention in Syria.
Moreover, one of the main sources of the intelligence and communication interceptions
that are supposed to be a smoking gun is none other than Israel,
which is notorious for doctoring and falsifying evidence....
That's where your "intelligence" is coming from.
In December 2012, CNN reported that the US military was training
anti-government fighters with the securing and handling of chemical weapons.
Under the name of the Destructive Wind Chemical Battalion, the insurgents
themselves even threatened to use nerve gas and released a video
where they killed rabbits as a demonstration of what they
planned on doing in Syria.
According to the French newspaper Le Figaro, two brigades of
anti-government fighters that were trained by the CIA, Israelis,
Saudis, and Jordanians crossed from the Hashemite Kingdom of
Jordon into Syria to launch an assault, respectively on August 17
and 19, 2013....
How they came by chemical weapons is another issue, but
many trails lead to Saudi Arabia. According to the British
Independent, it was Saudi Prince Bandar “that
first alerted Western allies to the alleged use of sarin gas by
the Syrian regime in February 2013.” Turkey would apprehend
Syrian militants in its territory with sarin gas....
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Back to the bull s**t:
US intelligence has not disclosed any evidence that Assad ordered the use of sarin, but the White House has said he remains responsible as the leader of the country and its military. Obama’s language Wednesday appeared to go a little further in singling out Assad....
Obama’s comments here about not being the one who set a red line — a year after using the phrase — and Congress’ credibility being at stake rather than his own irritated some Republicans who are allies on the vote just hours after they agreed to support him.
Good. Good job, Obomber.
To them, the comments made it look as if he were disclaiming responsibility.
“If he chooses to wash his hands of this, you can surely imagine how a vote will turn out,” said a Republican leadership aide who insisted on anonymity to avoid a more overt rupture with the White House.
You are not teasing me my implying it will be a NO VOTE, are you?
With the 800-Pound Gorilla in the room?
By saying it was the world’s red line, rather than his own, Obama was citing longstanding international norms against the use of chemical weapons. But more broadly, like his decision to seek congressional votes in the first place, he was trying to break out of his isolation in terms of military action against Syria.
There is always one sentence of truth in an AmeriKan jewspaper article, I just found it.
Not only has Russia blocked any UN action, but even America’s strongest ally, Britain, has opted against participating. A new Washington Post-ABC News poll found that 59 percent of Americans oppose the proposed missile strike.
Okay, first of all, that is opposition to MISSILE STRIKES!
That means the majority of American people are not buying this latest crop of lies from Obomber, and want NO MILITARY ACTION AT ALL!
Secondly, the rule-of-thumb for agenda-pu$hing corporate pre$$ polls is to divide in half that 60% approval and add it.
That means OPPOSITION is STILL at 90%, world!
The American people are making it be known LOUD and CLEAR they are AGAINST ANY MORE WARS based on ISRAELI LIES!
NO MORE! ENOUGH is ENOUGH is ENOUGH!
Standing at Obama’s side, Sweden’s prime minister, Fredrik Reinfeldt, urged waiting for a report from UN inspectors, who have sent samples from the scene of the attack to a Swedish laboratory, and said he preferred any action be supported by the Security Council.
“But I also understand the potential consequences of letting a violation like this go unanswered,” Reinfeldt said, in a nod to Obama’s position.
Unless it is Israel using the stuff against Palestinians in Gaza.
And since it was the U.S.-supported Al-CIA-Duh insurgents that used the stuff.... you gonna bomb them??
But at least Obomber got a "nod."
US officials have dismissed the UN investigation because it is charged only with determining whether there was a chemical attack, which Washington considers undisputed, not the more contentious question of who was responsible.
Yeah, who wants to be bothered with the FACTS and TRUTH when there are SYRIANS to be KILLED and a WORLD WAR to get going?!
But Obama acknowledged that the mistaken intelligence about weapons of mass destruction before the US-led invasion of Iraq in 2003 haunts his current efforts.
It wasn't "mistaken," they were OUTRIGHT LIES, you piece-of-shit paper!!!!
“I’m very mindful that around the world and here in Europe in particular there are memories of Iraq and weapons of mass destruction accusations and people being concerned about how accurate this information is,” Obama said. “Keep in mind, I’m somebody who opposed the war in Iraq and am not interested in repeating mistakes basing decisions on false intelligence. But having done a thoroughgoing evaluation of the information that is available, I can say with high confidence that chemical weapons were used.”
That is VERY INTERESTING because he DID NOT SAY Assad did it!
More so than Sweden, Russia has been unremittingly hostile to the suggestion of a retaliatory strike against Syria. President Vladimir Putin can use Russia’s veto to block UN Security Council action and has scoffed at the notion that the Syrian government was responsible for the chemical attack, calling it “utter nonsense” and suggesting that it was a provocation by rebels.
I can say that with HIGH CONFIDENCE!
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Obomber has to have some friends:
"Markey votes ‘present’ on Syria resolution" by Matt Viser | Globe Staff, September 04, 2013
WASHINGTON — A Senate committee voted on Wednesday to give President Obama the authority to use military force in Syria, providing momentum to the White House plan to punish President Bashir Assad for allegedly using chemical weapons.
Can you hear the yays from cheerleaders for war?
But in twist that signaled the issue still faces an uncertain outcome, Senator Edward J. Markey, a Massachusetts Democrat, voted “present,” choosing not to register his position on the highest-profile issue to come before him since he was sworn in nearly two months ago. He was the only senator to cast a noncommital vote.
The measure in the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations passed by a 10-to-7 vote — with seven Democrats and three Republicans in favor, and two Democrats and five Republicans opposed — and heads to the full Senate next week....
The House is considering a similar resolution.
Markey’s decision to vote “present” meant that he did not support the cause being pushed aggressively by President Obama — and by Secretary of State John F. Kerry, who for nearly three decades held the Senate seat that Markey now occupies.
Markey said he cast his equivocal vote because he wants more time to analyze the situation....
Translation: the phone calls are pouring in from deep-blue Massachusetts saying, no, no, hell no (blog editor smiles)!
Kerry continued to push Congress to act, returning to Capitol Hill for more testimony, this time before the House Committee on Foreign Affairs. In a news conference in Sweden on Wednesday, Obama tried to make the case to the world that action is needed.
“My credibility is not on the line,” he said. “The international community’s credibility is on the line. And America and Congress’s credibility is on the line because we give lip service to the notion that these international norms are important.”
He ought to know about lip service because no one gives more than him.
Related:
"Obama’s whirlwind, 24-hour visit to the Swedish capital is intended to show a softer side of American diplomacy even as the world’s gaze remains fixed anxiously on Syria."
NO ONE is FOOLED by the PUBLIC RELATIONS IMAGERY and ILLUSION any more, sir!
The resolution triggered heated debate in the Senate committee. Supporters contended that the United States had to send a message to Syria.
Are YOU GUYS down there GETTING the MESSAGE?!!
“Failure to respond to such a blatant violation of longstanding international norms not only signals an acceptance of this atrocity, it also jeopardizes the lives of our service members in combat both today and in the future,” Senator Tim Kaine, a Virginia Democrat, said in a statement....
How does it jeopardize our guys?
Just another disgusting Democrat backing the president out of some warped idea of loyalty.
What a HORRIBLE REASON to VOTE for a WAR based on LIES!
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The rest was all Markey double-talk, so if you want to read waste your time reading it you can go there.
"Lawmakers on left, right unite to oppose Syria strikes" by Noah Bierman and Matt Viser | Globe Staff, September 05, 2013
WASHINGTON — Representative James P. McGovern, the Worcester Democrat, is a steadfast liberal who has little in common with the conservative congressman a few doors down, Representative Phil Gingrey, a Tea Party-backed Republican from Georgia.
It might be more than you think:
Sunday Globe Special: Democratic Iced Tea
Do Globe reporters ever read their own paper?
But the two are finding rare agreement in their shared reservations about a US attack on Syria.
As Congress marches toward a vote next week on authorizing strikes on Syria, the congressmen are withholding support, making them part of an emerging odd coalition that could determine the outcome of President Obama’s plan for targeted strikes in Syria.
Congress is "marching" toward a vote, huh? It TRULY is a WAR PRE$$, right down to the CHOICE of WORDS! They sure do paint a lovely picture with them, don't they?
It’s not often that the conservative limited-government movement finds common ground with the liberal antiwar movement — especially in this era of partisan gridlock.
Gridlock except when it comes to what Israel, Wall Street, and the war profiteers want.
I'm so sick of parti$an$hip being trotted out by the corporate jewsmedia as an excuse to block and destroy services and neglect needs Americans have already paid for with their taxes.
And WHAT ANTIWAR MOVEMENT? WHERE, Globe? Democrap politicians?
Opponents of the Syria strike gave varying reasons for their stand. A growing number of Republicans have expressed skepticism about international engagement, and worry about the cost of military intervention. The Tea Party movement has been built by activists who crave a limited role of government.
McGovern noted that many in the GOP have spoken out in favor of his annual amendment to withdraw troops from Afghanistan, an effort which passed in June with support from 120 Republicans.
On the Democratic side, there are antiwar activists who trace their concerns to Vietnam. Others built their careers on opposition to the Iraq War or felt burned by authorizing that war on what turned out to be faulty intelligence reports.
The same sentiment is reflected among special interest groups that are usually at odds. The libertarian Cato Institute has opposed the Syria resolution, as has Heritage Action, a political arm of the conservative Heritage Foundation. On the left, several groups have said they are opposed, including MoveOn.org, a group that rose to prominence opposing the Iraq War.
Related: Sunday Globe Special: Making You Think
Must be more parti$an$hip.
House Speaker John Boehner and House minority leader Nancy Pelosi support Obama’s plan, a rare bipartisan pairing the White House hoped would be key to winning the vote.
We all know the LEADERSHIP of BOTH PARTIES SUCKS!
But passage remains uncertain as liberals and conservatives show their willingness to unite.
“You may be an adversary when it comes to protecting . . . food stamps,” said McGovern, who has a poster in his office honoring Massachusetts soldiers who died in battle. “And you may be my ally in stopping some of these unnecessary wars.”
He's my congressman, and HE BETTER VOTE NO!
McGovern and Gingrey, like many members, said they hadn’t made a final decision, underscoring how important the debate about the Syria resolution — and reaction from constituents — will be in the days leading up to next week’s vote.
Because of the 800-Pound Gorilla in the room?
How do you down and kill an 800-lb gorilla? With a thousand phone calls.
“On these issues, you’ve got to vote your conscience,” added McGovern.
Gingrey said earlier in the week that, “While the use of chemical weapons is intolerable, the United States must not get mired down in the Syrian civil war.” His press secretary said Wednesday that Gingrey “has many concerns regarding US involvement in Syria,” but had yet to make a final decision.
He must be hoping to keep the 800-Pound Gorilla away.
Other conservatives have already made up their minds. Representative Ted Poe, a Texas Republican, said Wednesday that he was a definite “no” vote as he left a Foreign Affairs Committee briefing with Secretary of State John F. Kerry. Poe said he had spoken with people from both political parties and believes many Americans are concerned about an escalation of US involvement in another country’s civil war.
Let's hear the APPLAUSE for POE!
Although cooperation between conservatives and liberals is not common, it is not unheard of on Capitol Hill. In July, Representative Justin Amash, a Michigan Republican, pushed for a vote that would defund national security surveillance programs.
The provision failed narrowly – by a 205-to-217 vote – but drew a surprising amount of bipartisan support. That group is providing the baseline for those who may see Syria through a similar lens, and Amash has been similarly critical of some establishment Republicans for holding what he thinks is an out-of-date world view espoused by President George W. Bush’s administration.
I am expecting about the same vote this time, in approval of course.
“GWB-era foreign policy is nearly extinct among GOP grassroots,” he wrote on his Twitter account Monday. “Some Rs in DC either didn’t get the memo or haven’t been home in a while.”
It's a RON PAUL PARTY NOW -- and the e$tabli$hment Repuglicans blocked his nomination.
That's why Obama is still president, you know? You think I voted for Romney? I wrote in Nader -- again.
Representative Alan Grayson, a liberal Democrat from Florida who was one of the most vociferous proponents of universal health care, is one of the most outspoken opponents.
Someone give that guy a call and say thank you.
“We are not the world’s policeman, nor its judge and jury,” Grayson wrote in an online petition that has been signed by nearly 35,000 people.
Related: Don't Attack Syria
Everyone in the Massachusetts delegation, except for Representative Joseph P. Kennedy III of Brookline, voted to defund the NSA programs. And many in the all-Democratic delegation are also among those expressing the most skepticism about the Syria resolution.
Related: Slow Saturday Special: Finally, a Hawkish Kennedy
Obama must have given him a call.
You need to have a seance and talk to your dead uncles to straighten out that head, kiddo.
Several Massachusetts delegation members have said they are leaning against the Syria strikes, including McGovern; Stephen F. Lynch, of South Boston; and Michael E. Capuano, of Somerville.
Lynch would have been a better senator than Markey.
Kennedy said he is undecided. Senator Edward J. Markey voted “present” on Wednesday on the resolution authorizing a Syria strike that was approved by the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in a 10-7 vote.
He was FOR SURGICAL STRIKES earlier, so the CALLS must be GETTING TO HIM (smile).
Although Boehner and Pelosi say they support Obama’s plan, they do not intend to lobby their members to vote for it. They are leaving that job to the White House, which has launched an intense push for votes.
Yes, I have NEVER SEEN them WORK SO HARD for anything, including his signature disaster of a health care bill.
“This is not the time for arm-chair isolationism,” Kerry said this week during congressional testimony. “This is not the time to be spectators to slaughter.”
You know where you can stick that, John (Kohn) Kerry!
Senator Rand Paul, a Kentucky Republican who has been a leading voice of opposition, said, “I haven’t had one person come up to me and say they’re for this war. Not one. We get calls by the thousands. Nobody is calling in support of this war.”
That's right! Only a few $pecial intere$t$ want this war!
Kerry bristled in his response, and turned his answer into a question.
I must admit, it is fun to watch that guy squirm. He's a such a shit.
“Let me just make it very clear to you,” he said. “You ask these questions, ‘Is this or that more likely to happen?’ If the United States doesn’t do this, senator, is it more or less likely [Syrian President Bashar] Assad does this again?”
More likely based upon the track record of silence and inaction regarding Israel's use of the stuff.
“I think it’s unknown,” Paul said.
“Senator, it’s not unknown,” Kerry responded. “If the United States doesn’t hold Assad accountable for this, it’s guaranteed he’ll do this again. Guaranteed.”
F**k you, John Kerry.
What are you going to do, order the U.S.-supported Al-CIA-Duh rebels to do it again?
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I'm not the only one in Massachusetts that doesn't like him:
"John Kerry’s bad idea" by Alex Beam | September 05, 2013
Would you go to war just because John Kerry said it was good idea?
Neither would I.
There was Secretary of State Kerry, his usual sonorous, stentorian, shaggy, slate-gray self, on five — count ’em, five — Sunday talk shows and in front of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, plumping for the administration’s questionable plan to teach Syrian dictator Bashir Assad a lesson he’ll soon forget. Kerry reached deep into his formidable arsenal of portentous clichés: The region is at risk; “a test of our resolve”; “we cannot — cannot — stand by”; and so on.
Kerry explained that the unhinged Syrian strongman threatens the vital interests of Israel, Turkey, and Jordan. The last time I checked, Israel, Turkey, and Jordan all have armies, indeed rather large ones. Maybe they should get together and teach Assad this badly needed lesson. Or perhaps they prefer that we shoulder the burden of any attack on Syria, and the subsequent risks of retaliation.
It is hard not to dwell on the irony of John Kerry, who burst onto the national stage in 1971 as a 28-year-old anti-war Vietnam veteran testifying against a questionably motivated foreign war, now storming Capitol Hill to make the case for a hermetic little military action in the Middle East. The Vietnam War began as a series of hermetic little military actions and quickly ballooned into a conflagration that claimed 58,000 American lives. How quickly they forget.
I $uppose there are rea$ons for $uch things.
The big problem with the rush to strike Syria is not one of Kerry’s making. The idea of a casus belli — Latin for “a reason to make war” — was totally discredited by the George W. Bush administration’s “weapons of mass destruction” shenanigans in 2003. We have seen this before: smooth-talking diplomats offering background briefings with incontrovertible evidence of. . . fill in the blank — chemical weapons, fissionable materials, long-range rockets retrofitted for nerve gas, etc.
The secretary of state at the time was the hapless Colin Powell, and, just as Kerry is doing now, he wandered around Capitol Hill, popped in at the usual media watering holes, and regaled our friends and enemies with rock-solid evidence that the unhinged Iraqi strongman Saddam Hussein was planning to unleash nuclear havoc.
Of course, it was all bunk.
And KERRY VOTED FOR THAT WAR, too!
Now we wonder, with considerable justification: Will we get fooled again?
No. Nope. Not fooled this time.
Let’s revisit Vietnam, the conflict that created the public John Kerry.
Related: Victims of Vietnam
Oh, right, the U.S. USED CHEMICAL WEAPONS in Vietnam -- just as they did in Fallujah, Iraq -- in ANOTHER WAR STARTED over DAMNABLE LIES!
As we now know, the casus belli for President Lyndon Johnson’s war was a very slender reed. In order to send troops to Southeast Asia, Johnson sold Congress a bill of goods known as the “Gulf of Tonkin incident,” which was actually two separate incidents, one of which never occurred.
But I saw those dead Syrian kids on TV -- or did I?
In the first incident, an American destroyer on an electronic spying mission fired at three North Vietnamese patrol boats planning to attack it. (The Americans later said the enemy fired first). A skirmish ensued, and, aided by carrier aircraft, the US destroyer beat off the patrol boats. The National Security Agency, which even in 1964 picked up a lot of enemy radio traffic, later revealed that the North Vietnamese tried to cancel the attack, but their patrol boats never received the recall message. “Since no Americans had been hurt,” the NSA wrote, “President Johnson wanted the event downplayed.”
It was the second Gulf of Tonkin incident two days later, a supposed attack on two US destroyers, that prompted Johnson to demand warmaking powers from a complaisant Congress. Only two members of Congress, Democratic Senators Wayne Morse and Ernest Gruening, voted against the resolution. Subsequent analysis revealed that the American destroyers were firing at “ghosts” on their radar screens. Johnson explained the non-confrontation in his inimitable style: “Hell, those dumb, stupid sailors were just shooting at flying fish.”
In 1971, with the Vietnam war in full swing, the former Navy lieutenant John Kerry asked the Senate Foreign Relations Committee: “How do you ask a man to be the last man to die for a mistake?” Now an older, less wise Kerry is back again, posing the question in a slightly different way: Who wants to be the first man to die for what will later prove to be a mistake?
And why are we still in Afghanistan, Senator?
“I think that in the next days, the government of Afghanistan’s response to anticorruption efforts are a key test of its ability to regain the confidence of the.... American people [who] are prepared to support with hard-earned tax dollars and with most importantly, with the treasure of our country — the lives of young American men and women.... and say, ‘Hey, that’s something worth dying for.’ ’’"
Who said THAT?!!
Are you frikkin' kidding?
Any takers?
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I think he was more than half-right there.
Also see: The Kerry Confirmation
Strange how the short-selling and inside trading scandal regarding the Buffett takeover of Heinz just slipped right down the old SEC memory hole, huh?
Related: Syria UPDATES
Pope urges leaders to abandon ‘futile’ military solution in Syria
What, Obomber couldn't convince him?
"US Ambassador Samantha Power has lashed into Russia at the United Nations, accusing Moscow of holding the Security Council ‘‘hostage’’ by blocking action against Syria. Power blames the structure of the Security Council, which lets five major nations hold veto power."
I guess that means she will not be casting a veto for Israel anytime soon, huh?
What a piece of shit she is!
