"Jeb Bush leaves door open for use of torture by government" August 14, 2015
DAVENPORT, Iowa — Republican presidential candidate Jeb Bush on Thursday declined to rule out resuming the use of torture under some circumstances by the US government.
Okay, the first thing is that the government HASN'T STOPPED using it!
I will make that a bit clearer tomorrow, but for now this war criminal in waiting has proven he is as odious as his father and brother.
‘‘I don’t want to make a definitive, blanket kind of statement,’’ Bush told an audience of Iowa Republicans, when asked whether he would keep in place or repeal President Obama’s executive order banning so-called enhanced interrogation techniques by the CIA.
‘‘When you are president your words matter,’’ he said.
Yup.
The former Florida governor said that in general, he believes torture is inappropriate, and that he was glad his brother, former President George W. Bush, largely ended the CIA’s use of the techniques before he left office.
Oh, did he? That how you remember it?
The CIA used waterboarding, slapping, sleep deprivation, humiliation, and other methods to coerce Al Qaeda detainees — methods the military would be prohibited from using on prisoners of war.
Yeah, the Senate put out a whole report and everything.
A Senate report released last year cited CIA records in concluding that the techniques were more brutal than previously disclosed, that the CIA lied about them, and that they failed to produce unique, life-saving intelligence. The CIA and its defenders take issue with the report.
Jeb Bush said he believed that the techniques were effective in producing intelligence, but that ‘‘now we’re in a different environment.’’
Are we? Half the time you guys are saying another 9/11 is right around the corner.
He suggested there may be occasions when brutal interrogations were called for to keep the country safe.
‘‘That’s why I’m not saying in every condition, under every possible scenario,’’ Bush said.
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Didn't make web version (Globe helping them cover it up already)!
This didn't make my printed paper:
"Jeb Bush faults Obama, Clinton for ‘premature’ decision to leave Iraq; Candidate’s speech focuses on Mideast" by Ed O’Keefe Washington Post August 12, 2015
SIMI VALLEY, Calif. — Jeb Bush struggled for several days earlier this year to say whether he would have authorized the Iraq war, a blunder that exposed his difficulty in talking about what many Americans consider the biggest failure of George W. Bush’s presidency.
On Tuesday night, Jeb Bush, who is seeking the Republican presidential nomination, attacked President Obama and former secretary of state Hillary Rodham Clinton for their “premature” decision to withdraw US forces from Iraq — a move he describes as a “fatal error.”
Look, Obummer is slowing and quietly sending troops back in and reoccupying the country. What's the problem?
“It was a case of blind haste to get out and to call the tragic consequences somebody else’s problem,” he said. “Rushing away from danger can be every bit as unwise as rushing into danger, and the costs have been grievous.”
So who lied us into the place, Jeb?
Btw, Maliki told us to get out. That's another reason U.S-created ISIS™ was sicced on him after he won reelection. And now they have the puppet Abadi.
Bush’s speech at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library — the most specific foreign policy address by a GOP candidate this cycle — included his first detailed set of ideas on how to combat the rise of the Islamic State, also known as ISIS, in Iraq and Syria.
He wants to send troops into Syria, but Obummer already has.
But it also marked a new effort to confront Clinton, a Democratic presidential candidate, and make his mark on Middle Eastern affairs. The move poses a risk by implicitly linking him to the unpopular policies of his brother.
It's in the name.
Unmentioned by Bush, for example, was that George W. Bush started the process of withdrawing US forces from Iraq.
Or the fact that his brother told lie after lie before invading.
Once in office, Obama sought to ensure that US troops would continue to have legal immunity while in the country. But the Iraqi government refused, leading to the exit of all but residual US forces by December 2011.
What did I tell you?
Jeb Bush also charged that Clinton allowed unrest in Iraq to intensify by not checking the rise of the Islamic State, which is occupying parts of the war-torn country and Syria.
Why would they want to check something they helped create?
Bush noted that the Islamic State is using Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram “to add a veneer of glamor to their exploits” and suggested the US government should “work with the owners of the relevant companies and give careful thought to how we address this problem.”
Then the NSA knows right where they are and are building profiles.
Bush remains a defender of the 2007 troop “surge” his brother ordered, believing that it helped American troops restore order to the country.
Wherever we go, whatever we do.... yup.
“So why was the success of the surge followed by a withdrawal from Iraq, leaving not even the residual force that commanders and the Joint Chiefs knew was necessary?” he said. “That premature withdrawal was the fatal error, creating the void that ISIS moved in to fill — and that Iran has exploited to the full as well.
Well, the enemy of my enemy is.... I'm so confused.
Maybe it is best to just go with EVERYONE is an ENEMY (but check with Israel first).
“And where was Secretary of State Clinton in all of this?” he added.
Ordering the destruction of Libya?
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The conventional myth is the father had it right, even if he had to repeatedly lie about babies thrown from incubators.....
As for the rest of the field, the co-leader is crude and the Perry campaign may be collapsing (may be? They can't pay anyone!)
If only the party could assimilate some candidacies to create the perfect presidential ticket.
Kasich/Jindal???
NDUs:
"Bush gets support at Iowa State Fair" August 15, 2015
DES MOINES — No endorsements were made, but Jeb Bush got the next best thing Friday from the top three Republicans in Iowa: personal time at the Iowa State Fair.
Senators Chuck Grassley and Joni Ernst welcomed the former Florida governor to the fair early Friday and Governor Terry Branstad joined him to flip pork loins on the sizzling grill at the Iowa Pork Producers tent later in the morning.
Bush’s comprehensive tour included snacking on a deep-fried Snickers bar, sampling pork chops on sticks, and appearing on the political soapbox — where he got pinged on
Recent polls indicate that the former Florida governor is struggling in Iowa, but Bush said many voters are still looking at the field. Asked whether he was ‘‘all-in’’ for the leadoff caucus state, he stressed that he would be ‘‘competitive.’’ Bush said his father, George H.W. Bush, was an "asterisk" at this stage of the 1980 race.
‘‘Last time around there were candidates that were winning at this point that never even made it to the starting line,’’ Bush said.
During his time at a forum hosted by The Des Moines Register, Bush stressed his executive experience and said he supports education standards created by states. He also gave out an email address to the crowd of hundreds and said he was committed to transparency.
WTF?
Bush could not fully escape questions about his family's political legacy, taking several foreign policy questions during the 20-minute appearance.
He pushed back against an audience member who noted Bush's brother, former President George W. Bush, signed the deal requiring U.S. forces to exit Iraq by 2011
And cut, like the Globe pos?
Let the debate begin!
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Related: Bush family adds a baby girl, Poppy
The mother is Jenna Bush, her father the former president George W. Bush, and the spawn was named after Jenna’s grandfather, George H.W. Bush, who ‘‘got very emotional’’ at the news.
Sifting through this fellatio disguised as reporting is torture.
