"Let’s dispense with the fiction that all temporary workers are living the American dream and doing work that Americans can’t do.... the business model is to replace Americans."
Actually, we are being told we won't do them, and that's a big difference.
"Outsourced, at home; Hyped as source of tech talent, H-1B visas usher in cheap replacements for US workers" by Farah Stockman | Globe Staff, March 31, 2013
You read that right, Americans. That's why the "unemployment" crisis isn't solved and why we have such great growth. And you thought it was you.
On Jan. 14, 2010, senior executives at Molina Healthcare in Long Beach, Calif., called their staff together for a somber meeting. The company had done poorly the previous quarter, they announced. Dozens of people in the IT department would have to be let go.
What the fired employees didn’t know was that the previous day, the US Department of Labor had approved applications for 40 temporary workers from India to be placed at Molina, through a company called Cognizant.
The fired employees — all US citizens or green card holders — were earning an average of $75,000 a year, plus benefits; the new workers, brought on H-1B visas, earned $50,000, with no benefits, according to a lawsuit filed by the ex-employees. The lawsuit alleges that Molina was flush with cash at the time, and that the real reason employees were fired was their nationality.
“The business model is to replace Americans,” said James Otto, their attorney.
Not just at Molina, he said. “It’s happening across the country.”
All of a $udden all the lie$ $pewing forth from my ma$$ media mouthpiece $urrounding this i$$ue and the economy in general make Sen$e.
The issue of “offshoring” American jobs has sparked emotional debate for decades, ever since factories began moving to cheap-labor destinations like India and China.
And they have Americans all worked up about it, too. Got 'em blaming China for being "Made in China" when it is CORPORATIONS that are responsible.
But over the last dozen or so years, a quieter transformation has been taking place: the transfer of high-tech jobs to non-US citizens here in the United States.
Those were supposed to be the good jobs we were supposed to get because the illegals would do the work we didn't want.
H-1B visas, which allow immigrants who are sponsored by their employers to work in the United States for a limited term, have become ground zero in the looming battle in Congress over the complex issue of immigration reform.
Doesn't $eem so complex to me.
Supporters of the program argue the US economy badly needs more high-tech workers from overseas. Americans aren’t studying enough math and science, the argument goes, so we must look elsewhere to grow our economy.
?????????
Never mind that the economy isn't growing, but what do you expect when AmeriKa's school systems are nothing but politically-correct indoctrination and inculcation centers?
“In Silicon Valley, Austin, Chicago, or anywhere else in the United States I hear from CEOs that the H-1B visa system is inadequate for today’s human capital marketplace,” Robert Greifeld, CEO of the firm NASDAQ OMX, told Congress in 2011. The cap on visas “is robbing America of the next generation of great companies.”
See: April Fool: The Great AmeriKan Workplace
The fool is you, Amurkn.
Vivek Wadhwa, a former H-1B visa holder, speaks about foreign high-tech workers in messianic terms. “We can either trip up the entrepreneurs who are going to reinvent America and save the world, or we can fix this problem,” he told the same congressional hearing. “It’s imperative that we allow Silicon Valley, our entrepreneurs, our technologists to do their magic and to save us.”
Not only are people who think this way scary, they are also crazy.
Beware, folks, of anyone claiming to be $aving you.
But if these workers have such superior abilities, why not make it easier for them to become Americans? Why bring them here on temporary H-1B visas that keep them chained to the company that sponsored them for years?
The reason that many employers use H-1B visas is not because of foreign workers’ special skills, but because these workers come relatively cheap.
You have been HAD, Americans!
Twenty percent of the 134,780 H-1B petitions approved last year went to just four firms: Cognizant Technology Solutions, Tata Consultancy Services, Infosys, and Wipro. The latter three are among India’s biggest outsourcing giants. Cognizant, headquartered in New Jersey, grew out of a partnership between Dun & Bradstreet and an Indian firm.
Iconic US companies, including Walmart and 7-Eleven, hire these firms to do IT work.
Wow. Wow.
The outsourcers can do it inexpensively, not only because they ship some of the work to India, but also because they bring temporary workers to the United States. Sometimes temporary workers come, learn the job, and take the work back to India for good. Other times, the job stays here but is filled by a rotating cadre of H-1Bs.
A different kind of revolving door.
When Molina Healthcare fired its IT staff, it didn’t apply for H-1B workers to replace them. It got them through Cognizant, the largest consumer of H-1B visas last year.
Indeed, outsourcers have hijacked the H-1B program.
Then they are "terrori$t$."
Consider that Facebook, the epitome of a tech company that can seek out the world’s best talent, was approved for just 307 H-1B workers. ExxonMobil got 58. The vast majority of participating companies got just one or two. Yet Cognizant got 9,281 of the visas. Tata got 7,454.
People are starting to notice. Cognizant is named as a defendant in the Molina case. And it isn’t the only one to face a lawsuit.
Why must everything in Amerika come down to law$uits? What is wrong with the greatest economic system the world has ever seen? What is wrong with Amerikan bu$ine$$?
Tata agreed in February to pay $29 million to settle a class-action lawsuit brought by Indian workers who were forced to hand over their US tax refunds to the company.
Wasn't in the brochure, was it?
Some 12,800 Indian workers are eligible for a payout from the lawsuit, which was brought by a Tata employee who worked at a Target in Hayward, Calif. Meanwhile, a criminal grand jury in Texas is investigating allegations that Infosys asked American employees to falsify paperwork in order to evade restrictions on the number of H-1B workers it could bring from India.
Wipro, which has a large presence in Massachusetts, appears to be the only one of the four left unscathed.
US newspapers haven’t paid much attention to these legal battles.
What a $hock.
But the Indian press has been all over the story, speculating about what a change in visa rules would mean for India’s outsourcing industry.
Also see: Impotent Indians
It is no secret that Cognizant’s business model rests on importing foreign employees. Cognizant explains clearly to its investors in its SEC filings that tighter restrictions would damage its bottom line. “The vast majority of our technical professionals in the United States and Europe are Indian nationals,” the company wrote in 2011.
But on Capitol Hill, Cognizant’s lobbyists don’t highlight its Indian workforce. A glossy eight-page hand-out entitled “Cognizant: An American Success Story” declares, “We create jobs in America,” and, “Our US employee base is some 23,000 strong.”
Deception by omission.
This is highly misleading, said Ron Hira, associate professor of public policy at Rochester Institute of Technology, who researches outsourcing and immigration policy.
I call it a lie, but I know that is bad form in the bu$ine$$ mouthpiece.
Almost all of those 23,000 workers, he said, are foreign nationals on guest-worker visas. (Alan Alper, a Cognizant spokesman, declined to say what percentage of its US workforce is American. He also said the Molina lawsuit is “without merit.” A spokeswoman for Molina also said there was “no basis for legal claims” against the health care firm.)
The notion that the American economy sometimes needs an influx of temporary workers has been around for more than a century.
Meaning lies can live a long time, and Amerikan bu$ine$$ has been exploiting cheap foreign labor forever. Ever hear of slavery?
In the 1800s, Chinese laborers built railroads in California, but the Chinese Exclusion Act kept them from becoming citizens. During World War II, thousands of Mexican “braceros” were brought to harvest fields left empty by farmers who had gone to battle. After the war ended, thousands of braceros were deported.
Not since the braceros have so many workers been transported so systematically into the United States on the assumption that they will go back home.
Many temporary workers want to stay here, but can’t. Their companies won’t help them get green cards. Advocates say more H-1B visas are needed because green cards take too long for fast-moving high-tech firms.
That doesn’t explain why the biggest users of H-1B visas help so few temporary employees become citizens or permanent residents. Cognizant sought 669 green cards for employees last year. Wipro sought 30. Infosys sought 21. Tata sought only four.
The reality is that once employees get green cards, they command an American salary and can go elsewhere if they don’t receive it.
Or not. WTF? Does she read what she writes?
Much of the competitive advantage of having that worker disappears. Employees on H-1B visas understand this all too well. Online discussion forums are full of workers strategizing about how to escape companies that haven’t given them a raise in years.
One reason among many I quit my two-plus years s*** job that Americans won't do. That and the daily humiliation.
On one forum, a person identifying himself as a Cognizant employee wrote that he suspected his bosses of deliberately submitting shoddy paperwork for his green card to keep him longer in a low-wage job.
When the H-1B visa program was invented in 1990, no one expected that Indian companies would be its biggest subscribers. “Exploitation of the H-1B by outsourcers is a new abuse,” said Bruce Morrison, a former Connecticut congressman who authored of the 1990 Immigration Act, which gave birth to H-1B visas. Morrison said the law — which vastly expanded employment-based green cards — was designed to curb the abusive practice of bringing temporary workers to fill permanent jobs. He crafted the bill with different professions in mind: nurses, physical therapists, and mechanics who serviced data processing machines, many of whom were from Taiwan and Korea.
How come every time they "fix" something the problem gets WORSE?
“Rather than increase H-1Bs, we need to increase green cards — and deliver them to new hires immediately,” Morrison said. That “would eliminate the disincentive to hire Americans.”
That's not the answer. That still puts Americans out of work.
But some companies have become addicted to H-1Bs.
I wonder what the rea$ons for that could be.
For them, the visas created a dream workforce: Young people with no family obligations who feel grateful for the chance to work long hours for relatively low wages. Workers who literally can’t leave for better-paying jobs. Disposable people who go home after three years or six years — just when they start getting expensive.
Welcome to the 21st-century economy. No wonder corporations are in the age of golden profits.
While some temporary workers might be magical geniuses capable of saving the US economy, many are not. Jay Palmer, principal consultant for Infosys, describes in court documents how the company brought workers straight from school — “freshers” — who needed months, if not years, to get up to speed.
It's called TRAINING, and it was once SOMETHING AMERICANS GOT when they were HIRED!
Some were being paid in rupees sent to Indian bank accounts, according to Palmer’s lawyer, Kenneth Mendelsohn. He said they survived on a stipend paid through a debit card, as they worked for the oil-field services firm Baker Hughes in Texas. “Six or eight Indians were living in a two-bedroom apartment.”
Wow. Wow. just like home, huh?
Cognizant, Tata, and Infosys are not even the worst offenders. Smaller staffing companies known as “body shops” have been known to charge H-1Bs the cost of their airfare — a practice reminiscent of indentured servitude.
Isn't that GOING BACKWARDS about 400 YEARS?!?!
But the biggest problem with H-1B visa abuse is not the treatment of foreign workers. It’s the way it distorts the US tech sector, exacerbating the very scarcity of American tech talent that the visas are supposed to solve.
And here my Globe business section is crowing about it all the time, telling me it's driving Massachusetts job growth!
John Miano programmed computers for 17 years. He used to work as a tech consultant for Dun & Bradstreet. He once helped clean up a coding project at AIG that went astray after AIG replaced its own tech staff with temporary workers.
But then Miano lost his job.
Lost? Or it was taken from him?
“As the business world around us becomes more and more competitive, large companies such as ours must find new ways to become more nimble,” executives at Dun & Bradstreet explained in a memo in 2000. “To assist us in this endeavor,” they wrote, they were going to hire Cognizant and Wipro.
Miano was one of the first to see what was happening to Americans in the computer industry. “We were on a death march,” he said. He formed a computer programmers’ guild and even testified before Congress. In 2002, he gave up and went to law school.
Try telling Miano that we need more H-1Bs because American kids don’t study enough computer science. “Why should they?” he asks. “There’s no future in it for them.”
Related: The Science of Gay
It's either that or a degree in video games, kids.
But even Miano doesn’t want to get rid of the H-1B program. He just wants to reform it so that it only brings the magicians who boost our economy, not the braceros who ruin it.
I am not a nativist. Immigration makes this country strong. But let’s dispense with the fiction that all temporary workers are living the American dream and doing work that Americans can’t do. H-1Bs should be for companies that want highly skilled foreigners to work for them, not for factory farms of entry-level laborers leased out to the highest bidder. We can’t allow them to make it impossible for firms that hire Americans to compete.
What if, instead of increasing the number of H-1B visas, we gave citizenship more quickly to more highly skilled people? And what if, instead of harping on how unqualified Americans are for these jobs, we celebrated companies that train and hire Americans?
???????? Do they really need to be celebrated for that?
And she really misses the point here. Here solution is to simply make citizens of those brought over here. That's still putting qualified Americans out of work -- by DESIGN!
Neeraj Gupta came to the United States from India on a student visa. Later, he got a H-1B visa. Eventually, he became a citizen. Recently, he founded Systems In Motion, a technology services company. Instead of bringing H-1Bs, he hired Chris Miller, an underemployed man from Novi, Mich., who worked at a furniture store. After the company’s training program, Miller became one of his best employees.
“The right investments in our people can make the US an engine for job growth in the technology industry,” Gupta told a congressional committee two weeks ago.
“Our people,” Gupta had said. Let’s invest in our people. Right here in the United States.
And get them over here, quick.
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Can we see the green card?
"Rethinking H-1B visas" by Farah Stockman | Globe Columnist, April 02, 2013
The good news is that Republicans and Democrats finally agree on something. The bad news is that it’s the wrong thing....
Supporters say the high-tech industry needs more highly skilled workers, and that the current cap for for-profit corporations — 85,000 a year nationwide — isn’t high enough.
But in reality, a significant number of those visas are wasted on jobs that don’t really exist. All that exists is a desire to exploit cheap overseas workers.
Take the case of Dibon Solutions, a technology consulting company in Texas, whose executives were arrested last month for visa fraud. According to the indictment, Dibon brought workers from India with promises of good jobs, but then leased them out to other companies, and only paid them an hourly wage for the times they worked.
“The conspirators earned a substantial profit margin when a consultant was assigned to a project and incurred few costs when a worker was without billable work,” it read.
The practice, known as “benching,” is illegal but widespread.
The unemployment rate of H-1B visa holders should be zero, since there is supposed to be a job waiting for workers when they arrive, and they are supposed to leave the country if they get fired. But due to “benching,” online forums are full of H-1B visa holders desperately searching for work. Some even ask if they are eligible for unemployment benefits....
Wow. I'm $peechle$$.
Last Friday — just two weeks after Silicon Valley businessmen traveled to Washington to lobby for more H-1B visas — Silicon Valley businessman Balarkishan Patwardhan was arrested for “benching.” He had asked to bring 19 computer systems analysts and computer programmers, at salaries of between $53,000 and $90,000 a year. But, according to the indictment, those jobs do not exist.
And downward pressure on wages is increased.
Sometimes H-1B abuse crosses the line into human trafficking. Nurses in the Philippines paid a Colorado man named Kizzy Kalu more than $4,000 apiece for the chance to come to the United States and teach nursing at Adams University, which doesn’t actually exist. They ended up working at nursing homes for half the promised wages, and were threatened with deportation when they complained.
Something that they couldn't do to Americans!
Then there is the case of Nilesh Dasondi, CEO of a New Jersey software company called Cygate, who brought six tech workers from India on the promise of high-paying jobs. Once they got here, he told them to hit the streets and look for work elsewhere. But he also charged them to stay on Cygate’s payroll, so they could legally remain in the United States. Over the three years, the six of them paid him $504,000.
You might think these abuses must be rare. But evidence shows they are not rare enough: A 2008 internal study by the US Citizenship and Immigration Services estimated that 13 percent of H-1B visas involved outright fraud, and an additional 7 percent involved technical violations like underpaying an employee.
Meaning they are not rare at all, they are standard operating procedure.
In some cases, the business did not exist. In other cases, the job didn’t exist. One employer asked permission to hire a “business development analyst” but later admitted that the job was “working in a laundromat doing laundry and maintaining washing machines,” the study said.
(Blog editor just shaking his head)
In some professions — life sciences, for instance — the rate of fraud/violations was zero. That suggests the need for H-1Bs is real. But in the computer industry, it was 27 percent. For accounting and sales, it was even higher: 42 percent. USCIS spokesman William Wright said the agency has stepped up site visits and fraud has gone down....
Another thing I'm tired of seeing in my paper is BUT, STILL, and all the other cute qualifiers that translate into shit-shoveling reporting. In college my writing instructor told us words like that were bad for a report, and yet they are ubiquitous in my paper.
So before increasing H-1Bs, why don’t we clean up the system first? If crooks stopped getting these visas, there might be enough for companies that legitimately need them.
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Farah still takes the agenda-pushing narrative to heart.
Related:
"H-1B visas predicted to go fast" by Hiawatha Bray | Globe Staff, April 05, 2013
By the end of the day Friday, the annual derby to secure special visas for foreign workers may be over after just one week, as a growing economy is prompting more companies to rush to hire tech-savvy foreigners....
(SIGH)
Companies, rather than individuals, apply for the visas in order to bring foreign workers with special skills into the United States to work for three to six years....
In Massachusetts, high-tech companies use H-1B visas to expand their roster of skilled engineers and to hang on to bright foreign students graduating from local universities. For example, a spokeswoman for chip maker Analog Devices Inc. of Norwood said her company is putting in for about 20 of the visas, for recent graduates with master’s degrees in electrical engineering. Without the visas, these graduates would have to return to their native countries.
Let's see if he ever mentions the abuses in this cheerleading pos.
The visa rush comes as Congress is debating an overhaul of US immigration policy. One of the main proposals comes from a bipartisan team of eight senators, which wants to raise the number of H-1B visas to 115,000 per year. Some senators have suggested a flexible cap that could go as high as 300,000 annually if there was sufficient demand for skilled workers.
There is always the military, Amurkn kid. Seems like that's the designed plan for you.
But another proposal, from longtime H-1B critic Senator Charles Grassley, a Repubian from Iowa, would tighten the standards for obtaining them. Grassley says the current system is being used by businesses to replace skilled American workers with lower-paid foreigners.
All right, he mentioned it.
Under current law, workers must be paid the local prevailing wage in their field. But Grassley and Ron Hira, professor of public policy at Rochester Institute of Technology, both contend that the wage standard is much lower than what American workers are usually paid. Under the Grassley plan, foreign workers would have to be paid either the prevailing wage, or the median average wage paid to Americans in the same jobs, whichever was higher.
“If that was passed I think that would solve most of the problems with the program,” said Hira. “It would raise the wage floor so H-1B workers couldn’t be used as a cheap labor force.”
Not to be a nativist(?) or anything, but that STILL MEANS AMERICAN WORKERS will be OUT!
The Grassley plan would also limit the number of visas at companies with more than 50 employees and bar firms from hiring H-1B workers simply so that they could “outsource” them to other companies. This would cause major problems for the biggest consumers of H-1B visas, Indian companies like Infosys Technologies Ltd. and Wipro Ltd. These companies use the visas to hire tens of thousands of foreign workers and assign them to US firms.
Yeah, no problems for American workers, just a problem for the insourcers. Incredible.
Andre Mayer, senior vice president for research at the Associated Industries of Massachusetts, said his organization favors an expansion of the H-1B program. He said the state’s high-technology companies have an insatiable need for well-educated workers.
It's Ma$$achu$ett$, smug-s*** liberal Democraps of Ma$$achu$etts.
“We need people who can do the job better than anyone else, and a very high proportion of very highly qualified people turn out to be from outside the United States,” Mayer said.
Hey, it's only Weiss's wisdom at work.
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"High-tech visa quota filled in 5 days" by Hiawatha Bray | Globe Staff, April 06, 2013
Even as the US Labor Department reported lackluster hiring of American workers, demand for visas for highly skilled foreign workers has exploded, rising to the highest level in five years.
And it's being cheered, Americans.
So how much longer are you going to allow these f***ers to shit in your face?
On Friday, the US Citizenship and Immigration Service said it had received enough requests to easily fill its annual quota for H-1B visas — now set at 85,000 — just five days after opening the application window. That is the fastest since 2008, when it took just one day to meet the quota.
Yup, so the program must be expanded!
The H-1B visa program lets businesses bring in foreign workers with specialized skills when they cannot find American citizens capable of doing the jobs.
That's an EXCUSE to PUT Americans OUT of WORK, and damn close to a LIE!!
Companies, rather than individuals, apply for the visas, which are valid for three to six years. All manner of skilled workers are eligible for the visas, but they are primarily used by companies seeking engineers, computer programmers, and other high-tech workers.
What did you kids study in school?
Because the Immigration Service has an excess number of applications, it will allocate the visas by lottery....
Americans are the losers. Can't win if you aren't allowed to play.
Demand for H-1B visas grows and shrinks along with the US economy.
Bulls***!
In the throes of the recent recession, applications for H-1B visas dwindled, and throughout the sluggish economic recovery, visa demand has rebounded slowly....
I'm tired of the conventional, s***-shoveling lies.
The big surge in applications comes even though the domestic labor market seems to be moving in fits and starts. Megan Naughton, an immigration attorney at Robinson & Cole LLP in Hartford, said that the boost in H-1B demand suggests better times ahead.
(Blog editor shaking his head in anger)
“When we get slow, the economy gets slow,” said Naughton. “When we speed up, the economy tends to get a little better.”
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"Boom in immigration fuels state population rise; Middlesex, Suffolk counties add most" by Matt Carroll | Globe Staff, April 08, 2013
“The big story in Massachusetts in the last 10 years is the increase in the foreign-born population,” said Len Albright, an assistant professor of sociology and public policy at Northeastern University....
That's what happens when you are a sanctuary state.
Most of Massachusetts’ recent immigrants came from Latin America and Asia, with Brazil, China, and the Dominican Republic topping the list, according to a report released last month by the Immigrant Learning Center, a nonprofit that runs classes for immigrants and does research.
The kinds of jobs the immigrants took varied widely, as did their incomes, said the report’s authors, Professor Alan Clayton-Mathews of Northeastern University and Professor Paul Watanabe, director of the Institute of Asian American Studies at UMass Boston.
Many became cleaners and maintenance workers, but others found employment in the life sciences, computers, and math, according to the report, citing the US Census 2009 American Community Survey.
You know, the jobs we don't want, I mean can't do.
More than half the state’s medical scientists are foreign born, said Marcia Hohn, at the center. Average income for immigrants is about $40,851, compared with $46,277 for native born, the report said.
“If you are in science and technology, Boston is the place to be,” said Hohn....
More immigrants means a more vibrant economy, said Strate. “Our growth is looking strong,” she said. The state attracts many immigrants because of its reputation for higher education and well-paying jobs in growing fields like biotechnology, said Strate and Hohn.
Metro areas such as Boston have gained population because they are vibrant, exciting places to live and work, said Barry Bluestone, director of the Dukakis Center for Urban and Regional Policy at Northeastern. It’s a trend seen in other thriving urban centers such as New York and San Francisco, said Draisen.
People are attracted to the Boston region because jobs are there, transportation is good, and there are plenty of cultural attractions and good restaurants, said people who follow the data....
Have you had enough?
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Also see: Sunday Globe Specials: Waves of Immigrants
And is this any $urpri$e?
"Facebook’s Mark Zuckerberg launches political group" by Barbara Ortutay | Associated Press, April 12, 2013
NEW YORK — Facebook chief executive Mark Zuckerberg and other Silicon Valley leaders have formally launched a political group aimed at revamping immigration policy, boosting education, and encouraging investment in scientific research.
Zuckerberg announced the formation of Fwd.us in an op-ed article in The Washington Post late Wednesday night. In it, he said the United States needs a new approach to these issues if it is to get ahead economically. This includes offering a path to citizenship for the 11 million or so immigrants who now live in the United States illegally.
‘‘We have a strange immigration policy for a nation of immigrants,’’ Zuckerberg wrote. ‘‘And it’s a policy unfit for today’s world.’’
Zuckerberg, whose great-grandparents were immigrants, said he wants ‘‘comprehensive immigration reform that begins with effective border security, allows a path to citizenship, and lets us attract the most talented and hardest-working people, no matter where they were born.’’
Zuckerberg’s goals echo a sweeping immigration bill that a bipartisan Senate group is expected to roll out in the coming days.
Companies such as Microsoft and Google, along with New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, have been pushing to make it easier for highly skilled workers and entrepreneurs to work in the United States. Although Fwd.us supports increasing the number of visas available to these workers, its goals are broader....
Today’s knowledge-based economy, the 28-year-old Harvard dropout wrote, is very different from the economy of the 20th century that was based on natural resources, industrial machines and labor....
Also backing the group are tech leaders such as LinkedIn Corp. chief executive Reid Hoffman and venture capitalists John Doerr and Jim Breyer, as well as Ruchi Sanghvi of Dropbox, who was Facebook Inc.’s first female engineer. Joe Green, founder of Causes.com, a social network for community organizing, serves as the group’s president and founder.
Major financial contributors include Google Inc. Chairman Eric Schmidt, Netflix Inc. chief executive Reed Hastings, Yahoo Inc. chief executive Marissa Mayer, SpaceX and Tesla Motors chief executive Elon Musk, Zynga Inc. chief executive Mark Pincus, and former Groupon Inc. chief executive Andrew Mason....
We know the rea$ons behind this.
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You need to face up to what this immigration bill is really about, America.
