Wednesday, October 27, 2010

Chit-Chat With the Taliban

I no longer take this type of propaganda seriously since the AmeriKans are no interested in peace talks. Then we would have to leave.

"NATO aids Afghan-Taliban talks; Group’s leaders head to Kabul; set to discuss peace accord" by New York Times  |  October 14, 2010

BRUSSELS — US-led forces are aiding the movement of senior Taliban leaders to attend initial peace talks in Kabul, the clearest indication of US support for high-level discussions aimed at ending the war in Afghanistan, senior NATO and Obama administration officials said.

While the talks involve senior members of the Taliban, officials emphasized that they are preliminary and that they cannot tell how serious the insurgents — or the weak government of President Hamid Karzai — are about reaching an accord.

But comments by administration officials in Washington and a senior NATO official in Brussels yesterday indicated that the United States was doing more to encourage a peaceful settlement in Afghanistan than officials had previously disclosed, which might reflect growing pessimism that the buildup of US forces there will produce decisive gains against the Taliban insurgency....  

PFFFFT! 

What, they FINALLY LEAVING?

Some U.S. officials appear eager to show that they are pursuing a new approach in Afghanistan that explores a possible political settlement, even as the military tries to step up pressure on the Taliban.  

Yeah, it is ALL P.R.!  Still KILLING THEM and that is NOTHING NEW!

The top US commander in Afghanistan, General David H. Petraeus, told reporters in Afghanistan recently that high-level Taliban leaders were reaching out to senior Afghan officials to start discussions. Petraeus seems determined to show progress on achieving US goals in Afghanistan....

So HOW MANY LIES will he have to tell this time?

Support for talks also comes as US officials have expressed a growing frustration with the complex role played by Pakistan, which provides a safe haven for many insurgents and has ambitions of dictating the postwar political situation in Afghanistan.  

Yeah, Pakistan is going to be CAUGHT in the PINCER when USrael attacks IRAN!

Pakistan has insisted that any lasting solution in Afghanistan must involve reconciliation with the Taliban and has urged the United States to participate in peace talks.

Yeah, because THEY ARE the PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE!!!

At the same time, Pakistan has disrupted some efforts by Karzai to reach out to Taliban....  

Yeah, PER U.S. REQUEST!  

See: Pakistan Sabotaged Taliban Peace Talks  

And CUI BONO?

In Washington, officials have been cautious about the prospects for a peaceful settlement.  

Told you it was ALL BULLS***!!

One senior US official noted recently that the Taliban, while war-weary, had little incentive to make concessions because they still had the sense that they could outlast the American presence in the country.  

They WILL OUTLAST us because EVENTUALLY EMPIRES COME HOME -- or DIE as SO MAY HAVE DONE in Afghanistan, you stoo-pid neo-con agenda-promoters! 

And HOW ABOUT that SPIN, huh?  

It is the WESTERN PUBLIC that is WEARY of the WARS and LIES behind them! 

From what I have read in my Muslim-hating, war-promoting papers the Taliban thrive on war.

 Obama signed off on a policy early this year that talks were possible as long as Taliban leaders, at the end of the process, agreed to renounce violence, lay down their arms, and pledge fidelity to the Afghan Constitution....  

So when is he going to start obeying ours?  

And WHEN is USrael going to RENOUNCE VIOLENCE, a**hole?!!!!!

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And ever notice that WARS happen QUICK but PEACE TALK takes FOREVER?

"Taliban could be ready to negotiate; Afghan council taking first steps for peace talks" by Deb Riechmann, Associated Press  |  October 15, 2010

KABUL, Afghanistan — A former Afghan president who heads a new peace council said yesterday that he’s convinced the Taliban are ready to negotiate peace.

Burhanuddin Rabbani said the Taliban have not completely rejected the idea of negotiating a nonmilitary resolution of the war.

“They have some conditions to start the negotiations process. It gives us hope that they want to talk and negotiate,’’ Rabbani said.

“We are taking our first steps,’’ he said. “I believe there are people among the Taliban that have a message that they want to talk. They are ready.’’

The Afghan government has acknowledged that it has been involved in reconciliation talks with the Taliban, but discussions between the two sides have been described as mostly informal and indirect message exchanges relying on mediators....

US Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton said yesterday that she thinks it’s “highly unlikely’’ that Taliban leaders, who refused to turn over Osama bin Laden in 2001, will ever reconcile.  

See what I mean? All this ink is AGENDA-PUSHING BULLS***!

“But, you know, stranger things have happened in the history of war,’’ she said on ABC’s “Good Morning America’’ television program....  

Yeah, like FALSE FLAG INSIDE JOBS and all the rest!

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KABUL, Afghanistan — Recent meetings between Taliban representatives and the Afghan government have focused on establishing a site for more formal negotiations on the war, as well as guarantees of safe passage for participants, according to the head of Afghanistan’s new peace council....

Why would they have to worry? They guard or convoys of supplies.

Although there has been some contact between Afghan officials and the Taliban for years, persistent reports of recent behind-the-scenes meetings suggest that the prospect for more serious negotiations is growing.

The details of the Afghan government’s communications with the Taliban remain largely secret. But a senior NATO official said this week that the US-led alliance has helped Taliban leaders travel to Kabul to meet with the Afghan government....

Burhanuddin Rabbani, the former Afghan president chosen to chair the committee to foster peace talks, said Karzai’s government has met with members of the Haqqani network, an insurgent faction in eastern Afghanistan. Afghan officials describe the faction as heavily influenced by Pakistani intelligence agencies and the least likely to reconcile with the Afghan government. 

Related:  

"Haqqani.... credited with introducing suicide bombing to the region.... cultivated as a "unilateral" asset of the CIA and received tens of thousands of dollars in cash for his work.... He may have had a role in expediting the escape of Osama Bin Laden.... In July 2008, CIA officials confronted Pakistan officials with evidence of ties between Inter-Services Intelligence and Haqqani. Haqqani has been accused of involvement in the 2008 Indian embassy bombing in Kabul.... The Haqqani Network is based in Pakistan and is believed to have links to Al Qaeda.


Isn't that something? 

How do you LIKE the LIES, readers?

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Related: Taliban elite joining talks, officials say (By Dexter Filkins, New York Times)

Also see: U.S. Talking to Itself in Talks With Taliban
  
CIA's Ace-in-the-Hole in Afghanistan

That must be to whom the NYT is referring. 

I wouldn't know; I no longer read their updates in the Boston Globe. I have enough propaganda on my plate already.  

And then there was no more talk.  You know how meaningless chit-chat is.