Thursday, June 18, 2009

U.S. Talking to Itself in Talks With Taliban

And EVERYBODY KNOWS IT!

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Please read
The Perceptive Pakistani People and Propaganda as a companion piece as well.

"US probes divisions within Taliban; Wants to detach tribes willing to share power" by Bryan Bender, Globe Staff | May 24, 2009

WASHINGTON - US intelligence agencies have launched an intensive effort to examine the various tribes linked to the Taliban to determine whether some can be broken off through diplomatic and economic initiatives, mirroring the successful strategy employed by General David H. Petraeus in Iraq, according to Defense Department officials.

It's known as divide and conquer strategy.

This article is truly a piece of work, too. Total garbage and propaganda.

Yup, surge success, yup. Sigh.

Top military and intelligence officials say they know far too little about the disparate groups they are fighting in Afghanistan and Pakistan and believe many fighters have been incorrectly labeled as the Taliban, lumping those who pose the greatest threat with others who may be willing to share power with the Afghan and Pakistani governments.

How can they not know whom they are "fighting?"

THEY CREATED, DIRECT and FUND THEM!!!!

And WHO are the TALIBAN?

"Something of a catchall term for loosely affiliated insurgents without a singular command structure. Often, the Afghan government favors the phrase 'enemies of the state' (New York Times July 24, 2007)."

"
The Taliban is growing and creating new alliances not because its sectarian religious practices have become popular, but because it is the only available umbrella for national liberation," says Pakistani historian and political commentator Tariq Ali. "As the British and the Soviets discovered to their cost in the preceding two centuries, Afghans never like being occupied."

Also see:
Afghanistan's Other Government

And today, readers?

"More and more, people here look back to the era of harsh Taliban rule from 1996 to 2001, describing it as a time of security and
peace."

Oh, oh, oh!!!! I'm so offended by the AmeriKan MSM and its bullshit!

"You have a whole spectrum of bad guys that sort of get lumped into this catch-all term of Taliban . . . because they're launching bullets at us," said a senior defense official involved in the effort who like others was not authorized to speak publicly about intelligence matters. "There are many of the groups that can probably be peeled off."

Not about TRUE PEACE, it's about GEOPOLITICAL GOALS of EMPIRE!

Sick of the s*** yet?

The initiative, which involves hundreds of intelligence operatives and analysts in the United States and overseas, is expected to culminate later this year in a detailed, highly classified analysis of the different factions of the Taliban and other groups. The overall effort is considered crucial to the long-term success of President Obama's goal of crushing the remnants of the Al Qaeda terrorist network and bringing stability to large swaths of the two countries that have become incubators for anti-US violence.

"This is the key to moving forward," said Peter Bergen, a specialist on radical Islamic terrorism at the New America Foundation in Washington, D.C. "The easiest way to end an insurgency is to get people to stop being insurgents."

And the easiest way to do that is STOP INVADING and OCCUPYING other lands!

Part spycraft, part history research, the project is an attempt to re-create the successes in Iraq in 2007 and 2008, when the United States and its allies were able to co-opt some elements of the Sunni-led insurgency and Shia militias and bring them into the fold of the Iraqi government. Enlisting the former enemies is credited with helping to dramatically reduce the number of attacks on US and Iraqi security forces.

Have you had enough of this garbage yet?

And NOTICE how the PEACE TALKS -- if that is what you can call this -- just FADE AWAY?!! What I would call a ONE-DAY WONDER in my ZIONIST WAR DAILY!

As US intelligence efforts were trained on Iraq, there was no comparable attempt to map out the different groups facing off against American and allied forces in Afghanistan and Pakistan, according to multiple US government officials and analysts. A recent Obama administration review of US policy found American understanding of the nature of those adversaries to be seriously lacking.

Yeah, even though they are CIA ASSETS!!

See: The American War on Wana

In response, one senior military official involved in the effort said intelligence analysts have been instructed by top officials in the Pentagon, the State Department, and the National Security Council to return to the basics, including dissecting "Who is the Taliban and who are the real bad guys?"

If they are killed in missile strikes, BAD GUYS!

"We have insufficient [intelligence] capacity and capability when it comes to Afghanistan and Pakistan," said the official, adding that the intent of the intelligence work is to establish "a more granular understanding of tribes, social structures, and the enemy as the effort in Afghanistan moves forward."

WHAT CRAP!!!!

The first step, officials said, will be identifying the remnants of the Afghan Taliban who ruled Afghanistan until it was overthrown by US-led forces in late 2001 for harboring the planners of the 9/11 attacks.

They include leaders possibly open to dialogue, such as Mawlawi Jalaluddin Haqqani and Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, Afghans who are believed to be potential rivals for power with the more radical Taliban leader Mullah Muhammed Omar, who escaped the US onslaught in 2001. Some Taliban leaders are reportedly talking through intermediaries about a potential peace deal with the Afghan government.

Haqqani the TERRORIST?

"Haqqani.... credited with introducing suicide bombing to the region.... cultivated as a "unilateral" asset of the CIA and received tens of thousands of dollars in cash for his work.... He may have had a role in expediting the escape of Osama Bin Laden.... In July 2008, CIA officials confronted Pakistan officials with evidence of ties between Inter-Services Intelligence and Haqqani. Haqqani has been accused of involvement in the 2008 Indian embassy bombing in Kabul...."

Hekmatyar the CIA ASSET?

"Gulbuddin Hekmatyar the favored warlord of the ISI and CIA. Casey was said to be particularly fond of him as both shared a goal of extending the fighting beyond Afghanistan into the Soviet Union itself. He was a ruthless fighter, who also led several raids into USSR territory. He was also a major drug trafficker. Almost half of all the covert weapons directed at Afghanistan were sent to his group"

Seen enough, readers?


Then there are Al Qaeda's leaders and other foreign Arabs aligned with them who used Afghanistan as a haven to plan attacks on the United States and are now believed to be relying on neighboring Pakistan as a base of operations. They are considered by most specialists to be irreconcilable to American overtures.

Al-CIA-Duh, huh?

Watch:
Al-Qaeda Doesn't Exist

But there are other foreign elements, including Uzbeks, Chechens, and Uighurs, whose ultimate intentions are less understood, officials said.

ALL CIA!


"Many of those foreign elements have been there for 20 years," said the senior defense official. "They are the refuge of the first Afghan jihad" against the Soviet Union in the 1980s. "Some of those have actually intermarried within the tribes."

Of course, NOTHING about the U.S. SETTING the WHOLE THING UP
:

"The U.S. government was well aware of the Taliban's reactionary program, yet it chose to back their rise to power in the mid-1990s. The creation of the Taliban was "actively encouraged by the ISI and the CIA," according to Selig Harrison, an expert on U.S. relations with Asia. "The United States encouraged Saudi Arabia and Pakistan to support the Taliban, certainly right up to their advance on Kabul," adds respected journalist Ahmed Rashid. When the Taliban took power, State Department spokesperson Glyn Davies said that he saw "nothing objectionable" in the Taliban's plans to impose strict Islamic law, and Senator Hank Brown, chair of the Senate Foreign Relations Subcommittee on the Near East and South Asia, welcomed the new regime: "The good part of what has happened is that one of the factions at last seems capable of developing a new government in Afghanistan." "The Taliban will probably develop like the Saudis. There will be Aramco [the consortium of oil companies that controlled Saudi oil], pipelines, an emir, no parliament and lots of Sharia law. We can live with that," said another U.S. diplomat in 1997."

Yup, there is AmeriKa's jewsmedia telling you the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth again!!!!!!!!!!!

Meanwhile, there is the so-called Pakistani Taliban, perhaps symbolized by Baitullah Mehsud, one of the militants most wanted by American and Pakistani military forces for his role in orchestrating attacks on both sides of the porous border.

Oh, ANOTHER DEAD CIA ASSET!!!!!!!

Pakistan Taleban chief Baitullah Mehsud, DIED SIX MONTHS AGO!

'Dead' Pakistan Taleban Chief Takes Credit for Lahore Terror Attack

Have you had enough, America?

And there are also criminal elements such as the drug smugglers and what one official called angry local Pashtun tribes "who don't like anybody setting up shop in their area."

To get the guts of the drug war, please see .

Specialists said untangling these different groups could be the key to achieving American aims.

"Some of them . . . may not be susceptible to dialogue or moderating influences," Hilary Synnott, a senior fellow at the International Institute for Strategic Studies in London, said recently in an online forum hosted by the Council on Foreign Relations. "But others, such as . . . those who are being coerced by extremists of whom they disapprove, or those who are frustrated by the lack of alternative opportunities, may be persuaded or induced to lay down their arms and work for peace."

Translation: surrender to the New World Order

Well, they are WORKING for the CIA so I suppose they can just tell them to STOP like they did in Iraq, huh?

But Bergen, who has spent considerable time in the region, warned that reaching durable agreements with more moderate elements will prove more difficult than it was in Iraq - especially when they see the 21,000 additional American military forces that Obama is sending this year to Afghanistan.

Bergen one of the lead bin Laden propagandists in the U.S. Every time I see these 'terror" experts on TV (not often anymore since I no longer watch tv news) I always think to myself that none of them will ever blow the whistle -- because then they would no longer be an "expert" on tv.

"It's going to be more complex to do deals with the Taliban than people think," Bergen said. In their view, "more brigades are not coming to make peace deals. They are going to kill a lot of people."

Yup, which is why I am so virulently opposed and angry at the policy!

All over the DAMNABLE LIES of 9/11!!!

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Today's Pakistan war-promotion
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Interesting, huh?

After days and days and days of coverage.

Update (from the BLOGS):
US Drone Attack Kills 13 in South Waziristan