"there is no way to know"
First, the TRUTH REPORT from the BLOGS!
"Ahmadinejad supporters hold unity rally Hundreds of thousands of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's supporters gather in a central Tehran square to call for unity and respect for the people's vote. The pro-Ahmadinejad ralliers were chanting slogans in support of the president, the Leader of the Islamic Revolution Ayatollah Seyyed Ali Khamenei, while inviting supporters of Mousavi to national unity by chanting, "we are of the same nation"
"Proof: Israeli Effort to Destabilize Iran Via Twitter Were these legitimate Iranian people or the works of a propaganda machine? I became curious and decided to investigate the origins of the information. In doing so, I narrowed it down to a handful of people who have accounted for 30,000 Iran related tweets in the past few days. Each of them had some striking similarities -
1. They each created their twitter accounts on Saturday June 13th.
2. Each had extremely high number of Tweets since creating their profiles.
3. “IranElection” was each of their most popular keyword
4. With some very small exceptions, each were posting in ENGLISH.
5. Half of them had the exact same profile photo
6. Each had thousands of followers, with only a few friends. Most of their friends were EACH OTHER.
"US gov asked Twitter to stay up for Iran protests On Monday, Twitter delayed a scheduled upgrade so that its micro-blogging service would not be down during daylight hours in Iran, where Tweets have fueled protests against the disputed presidential election. And according to press reports, the delay was requested by the US State Department.
"Iran: Some Dots You May Want To Connect
Editor's Comment: Before you start connecting the dots, consider this: The attempt to discredit the elections and cause instability in Iran look very much like a scheme we've seen before - directly out of the CIA playbook. We've seen this pattern in so many elections in Venezuela, for example, I swear that even the Chavistas would be disappointed if it doesn't reappear next time around. After all, a little drama does add some excitement in elections where consistent landslide victories are won by presidents like Chavez and Ahmadinejad. So here we go again - the old Langley one, two, three:
1. Groom an opposition candidate to run against the guy you hate, pay him well and line up your media to back him.... --more--"
"What if Ahmadinejad Really Won? Mr. Ahmadinejad spent the last four years traveling across the country courting the rural and small town votes. There is even evidence that his programs to distribute income and wealth more evenly have begun to bear fruit. The so-called “justice shares” that entitle each individual to receive about $1,000 worth of equity in public companies pay out about $70 a year have been distributed to many in rural areas, and many more are waiting for their turn. Others are waiting to receive funds for housing and marriage from various funds that his administration has established.... It is not so implausible that Mr. Ahmadinejad may have actually won a majority of the votes cast"
"Experts see no ‘smoking gun’ for Iran election fraud Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's election victory is disbelieved by hundreds of thousands of Iranians who have poured onto Tehran's streets in protest, but experts say hard evidence of vote rigging is elusive."
"The Revolution Will Not Be Twitterized Overnight we're being sold on the critical global relevance of these repositories of heretofore useless information about what the Average Joe is doing, thinking, saying, listening to, watching, reading and eating every 5 minutes. Now they'd like us to believe that Twitter and Facebook are fueling a revolution and serving as the vessel for democracy in Iran. Power to the @People.
Also related: Ajax Redux: Recounting the Iranian Election
"Massive protests continue in Iranian capital; Government offers to do limited recount" by Nazila Fathi, New York Times | June 17, 2009
Sure aren't ignore these protests, are you, you selective piece of Zionist s***? Tells you all you need to know; when the agenda-pushing press covers a protest in such glowing fashion (think fart-misters, illegals, gays) the message is clear.
Related: Contrasting protest coverage Iran vs G-20 and Georgia "What is so unique about unrest in Iran? Isn't there unrest everywhere? Sure there is! Aren't there protests everywhere? Yup, there are!"
Case closed on the MSM and protests.
TEHRAN - Iran’s leaders failed yesterday to halt a second day of huge demonstrations against last week’s election results but, placed on the defensive, offered another concession to the sustained rage here, saying they would allow a limited recount.
They received a resounding refusal - first from reformist politicians who said they would accept only a new election and then on the streets of the capital. Supporters of the defeated opposition presidential candidate, Mir Hussein Moussavi, jammed into a line more than a mile long. They marched mostly in silence, some carrying signs in English asking, “Where is my vote?’’
The numbers of opposition protesters did not match those on Monday, when hundreds of thousands of Iranians joined in the largest public demonstration since the Islamic revolution in 1979, enraged that the conservative president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, was declared the winner of Friday’s elections with 63 percent of the vote.
Fear, many said, was a factor: Seven protesters were killed overnight, the gritty and uncensored images, some taken by cellphone camera, beamed around the world via the Internet. Worry over the future of Iran - crucially important for its oil, position next to Iraq and Afghanistan, nuclear program, and ties to extremist groups - spilled over its borders.
Translation: Regime change under way.
In Washington, President Obama said that it would be counterproductive for the United States “to be seen as meddling’’ in the disputed Iranian presidential election, dismissing criticism that he has failed to speak out forcefully enough against the growing unrest in Iran....
Whatever. I'll give it to this guy; he's mesmerized the American people because he tells the same lies as Bush and no one notices (although that is changing very quickly; people are tiring of the backtracking, broken promises, and lies).
As the confrontation inside Iran continued to build momentum yesterday, each side laid down more cards. Reformers, with substantial popular support but without the power of the state, worked to gain religious credentials, urging clerics to break with the government.
AJAX REDUX!
“No one in his sane mind can accept these results,’’ a senior opposition cleric, Hassan-Ali Montazari, said in an outspokenly critical public letter posted on his website.
?? I though all that was shut down, there was no freedom, blah, blah, blah, blah?
The government, meanwhile, sought to limit the damage: cracking down with only limited success on electronic media, revoking press credentials for foreign journalists, and ordering journalists not to report on the streets.
Funny how ISRAEL'S BANNING of REPORTERS from GAZA doesn't elicit the SAME RESPONSE from my Amerikan jewspaper, 'eh?
And CHECK OUT THIS LIE!!!!!
Ahmadinejad’s supporters - though apparently fewer than 10,000 of them - marched through Tehran’s streets, proclaiming their candidate the winner and chanting, “Rioters should be executed.’’
Yup, they DO IT EVERY TIME!!! UNDERCOUNT the ones they DON'T LIKE!
Hey, was that MISTRANSLATED, btw?
In an intervention that suggested growing concern over the scale of the protests, the nation’s supreme religious leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, took the unusual step of meeting with representatives of the four presidential candidates, urging national unity for the second time in recent days. He did not address the protesters’ demands for new elections.
Meanwhile, the Guardian Council, the watchdog body that must certify the results, said it was willing to conduct a partial recount of the votes, IRNA news agency reported. Khamenei, who had urged the council on Monday to examine the vote-rigging claim, said yesterday that the candidates needed to resolve the issue through legal channels.
Moussavi’s representative, Ali Akbar Mohtashamipour, said a recount would not meet the demands of the protesters, reported Ghalamnews, a website linked to Moussavi. “We believe there has been fraud because our representatives were not allowed to supervise the elections and we have evidence of many irregularities,’’ Mohtashamipour said.
He gave an example: Votes cast at some polling stations, he said, were more than the number of eligible voters in those areas. He also said that Guardian Council had not been impartial before the election, some of its members even campaigning for Ahmadinejad.
You know, not to be cold, but I don't care about THEIR ELECTIONS!!
That is for the IRANIANS to WORK OUT WITHOUT INTERFERENCE form US!!!!!
I care about VOTE FRAUD in America, dick-s*** newspaper!!!!
WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN on THAT?
Hello? I can hear the crickets, a-holes!
Ahmadinejad, appearing to try to project a secure grip on power, left Iran to fly to Russia on Tuesday for a meeting on international security.
Yeah, and what they are discussing there -- although you won't find it in the corporate AmericKan propaganda-pushing papers is the ABANDONMENT of the DOLLAR as WORLD RESERVE CURRENCY!
If YOU THINK YOU HAVE IT BAD NOW, 'murkn, just WAIT until THAT KICKS IN!
Hey, MAYBE IT WON'T! That's why GLOBALISTS GO TO WAR!!!!
Saddam was going to junk the dollar and he was invaded; Iran just did the same thing, refusing to take dollars in payment for oil.
Of course, because there are no links there and only my memory of what I read on the blogs, you must believe the lying, omitting jewspaper over me, right?
Leaders in Western Europe also continued to voice concerns, with the strongest remarks coming from President Nicolas Sarkozy of France, who said on Tuesday that the “extent of the fraud’’ in Iran was “proportional to the violent reaction’’ there, news services reported.
So Nico the Zionist is APPROVING of the VIOLENCE, 'eh?
Even though there is NO EVIDENCE of FRAUD?
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TEHRAN - The leader of Iran’s protest movement accused the government yesterday of lies, fraud, and murder, while the government turned its ire on the United States, accusing the Obama administration of stirring the unrest over Iran’s disputed election.
The increasingly bitter rhetoric came as supporters of Mir Hossein Mousavi defied a ban on unauthorized rallies and took to the streets again....
Related: U.S. Terrorizes Iran
The government, meanwhile, summoned the Swiss ambassador, who represents US interests in Tehran, to complain of “intolerable’’ interference by the United States in Iranian internal affairs, state television reported. Iranian authorities had made similar complaints earlier this week to the ambassadors of Germany, France, Britain, and the Czech Republic.
Yeah, it's not like we've never done that before, 'eh?
And WHY am I only hearing about the IRANIAN COMPLAINTS NOW, jewsmedia (buried in the middle of the piece, hoping I'll miss it)?
In Washington, the State Department rejected the Iranian charge, saying the United States was in “good company.’’
Think I'm going to believe them?
“As the president has said, we are not interfering in the debate that Iranians are having about their election and its aftermath,’’ said State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley. “This is not about the United States.’’
Then he's a LIAR!
President Obama, who has come under criticism from some quarters in Washington for not speaking out directly on behalf of the Iranian protesters, said Tuesday that he hoped the Iranian government would affirm “the universal principles of peaceful expression and democracy’’ but that the United States was “not meddling’’ in the “amazing ferment taking place in Iran.’’
Even though he APPLAUDED the PROTESTER'S VIOLENCE!! Of course, we know who SOME QUARTERS are in Washington -- as their interest are transmitted by my Zionist War Daily!!!!
Efforts to clamp down on outside sources of information continued yesterday as authorities blocked CNN’s website and reportedly jammed some BBC satellite television broadcasts. Cellphone service, including text messaging, was turned off for the fifth day in a row, and social networking sites like Facebook and Twitter remained partially blocked.
And this point of tiring of responding to the crap.
Word of mouth is already the main way for Iranians to get information about the protests, and some Iranians said they feared that a complete shutdown of all Internet services and satellite TV broadcasts might be coming. Adding to those fears, Iranian state television aired a program, titled “The Green Wave,’’ that portrayed the protest movement as being fomented by foreign media, including the BBC and the Arabic station Al Jazeera.
Isn't it SAD that the TRUTH is being told by the "enemy" -- while OUR AMERIKAN "news"papers LIE TO US?
The deputy head of Iran’s National Security and Foreign Policy committee, Hoseyn Sobhaninia, called this week for steps against CNN and the BBC, whose Farsi-language satellite channel is hugely popular here. “Without a doubt, foreign media, and especially the BBC’s Persian service and radio, are the main orchestrators of disorders in the country, guiding rioting elements that support neither the candidates nor the Islamic revolution,’’ Sobhaninia said Tuesday.
Hey, EMPIRES NEVER FORGET!!!
Look at a map of former colonies and who controlled them' you will always find an active intelligence service left behind by the former colonialists.
And CHECK THIS OUT (curiouser and curiouser):
Many Iranians took a break from politics yesterday to watch the national soccer team play a World Cup qualifying match in South Korea. But several of the Iranian players, including the team’s captain, came on the field wearing green wristbands in apparent solidarity with Mousavi’s supporters. Some fans at the game, which was televised from Seoul and ended in a 1-1 tie, also waved banners reading: “Free Iran.’’
Yeah, DRAG the POLITICS into the SPORTS! No wonder my jewspaper features SPORTS on the FRONT PAGE! Don't they have their own SECTION? Btw, I'm not ripping the World Cup match; I understand how important REAL FOOTBALL is to ALL the NATIONS of the WORLD! My Lebanese friend taught me that.
Arrests of opposition leaders continued Wednesday, following a wave of detentions that began over the weekend. Saeed Laylaz, a political analyst who often gives interviews to the Western press, was among those arrested yesterday, sources close to him reported.
Unconfirmed and unverified, of course. Besides, who can blame the Iranian government if true; they are defending themselves from an outside-supported coup!
Yet tens of thousands of protesters poured into the streets of the capital in defiance of a ban by the Interior Ministry, which is headed by a staunch supporter of Ahmadinejad. Foreign journalists were not allowed to attend the demonstration, but witnesses and participants interviewed afterward said police officers, wearing yellow vests, stopped traffic as the demonstrators walked silently and peacefully from the central Haft-e Tir square to Enghelab (“Revolution’’) Street. Riot police, who have been nearly ubiquitous in Tehran since Saturday, were nowhere to be seen.
According to those interviewed, the diversity of the crowd reflected the broad movement demanding the annulment of the elections and a new round of balloting.
So that THEY CAN STEAL the NEXT ELECTION, huh?
Young women in traditional black chadors walked next to businessmen holding briefcases, while a mother pushing a baby stroller held up a placard, saying “Where is my vote?’’ in English. To show that they were protesting the election but not the Islamic system of governance itself, some of the marchers people held up posters of the founder of the Islamic republic, the late Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini.
Yeah, the ZIONIST TOOLS and their PROPAGANDA are REALLY SOMETHING!
Although green is the symbolic color of Mousavi’s campaign, many of the protesters wore black shirts or black wristbands as a sign of mourning for the seven demonstrators who died Monday night.
Green is the banner of true Islam (think Hamas; it's why I use it as a color code and give the Zionist agents and Israel the blue).
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And let's pick up on that late lie, I mean, theme: the diversity (pfft) of the protests.
"Opposition grows broader as protests, anger flare on the streets" by Anna Johnson, Associated Press | June 18, 2009
TEHRAN - It’s not just rich, liberal young people anymore: Whole families, taxi drivers, even conservative women in black chadors are joining Iran’s opposition street protests.
Have you had enough because I have.
Related: Howdy Doody Hypocrisy and the BS Express
They say they want something simple: their votes counted and their voices heard. What they will settle for - or push for - is a far bigger question. It’s still too early to determine whether the street protests will morph into a solid political opposition movement led by President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s top opponent, Mir Hossein Mousavi. And some Iranians have expressed doubt about people’s willingness to sustain the momentum.
Thus the title of this post.
But in Tehran and other cities throughout the country, Mousavi supporters - from both the upper and middle classes - are sending a strong message. “The government doesn’t care about our votes, but we stand behind them. Mousavi stands up for our votes and we follow him,’’ said Saham Boorghani, 26, who is close to Mousavi and an editor at the reformist website Iranian Diplomacy.
Boorghani is typical of the young reformists who initially backed Mousavi, but that support is growing to include grandmothers, government employees, and hotel clerks. The last time Iran was engulfed in similar anti-government action was a decade ago when a deadly raid on a Tehran University dorm sparked six days of nationwide protests. At the time, they were considered the worst since the 1979 revolution that toppled the pro-US shah and brought hard-line clerics to power.
The half-assed truths and omissions get tiresome.
But the student-driven movement eventually fizzled, leaving many people more bitter but the system intact. This time, though, the protesters are not just affluent students and youth. The middle class is also flooding the streets and even conservative religious Iranians are joining the Mousavi supporters.
After a while you just.....
Swathed in a long black chador, 21-year-old Saman Qahremani said she wanted to let the government know that many Iranians from all walks of life are angry. “When I learned about the result I just felt hatred. They cheated us,’’ said Qahremani, who held a sign at Monday’s rally that read in English, “We just want our vote.’’
They SOUND LIKE Americans -- although I bet we beat 'em in the anger department these days because this nation is furious about the same things!
Of course, Iranians hate; Amurkns (unless 'fringe terrorists') and Jews don't.
The mass demonstrations of support for Mousavi have spread to other parts of Iran, too. Rallies attracting thousands have popped up across the country including the central historic city of Isfahan, the conservative northeastern city of Mashhad and Shiraz in the south. It is not just the election many people in the streets are angry about. They want more personal freedoms, a better economy, and international standing. They blame Ahmadinejad for giving Iran a bad name abroad.
Change Ahmadinejad to Bush and you have the same thing only in AmeriKa!
And the Iranians sinply want what ALL PEOPLE WANT, huh?
“This is a cheater government. In my eyes, Ahmadinejad has defaced himself and Iran,’’ said Leila, a 29-year-old accountant who lives in a middle-class neighborhood of western Tehran and would only give her first name out of fear for her safety.
I know how you feel; won't give her last name, huh?
Yeah, I'm anonymous, too -- for good reason (unique name!)
The last time such a broad base of Iranians took any action against the government was the revolution. The shah’s days were numbered when the middle class took up the protest mantle, causing the monarchy to collapse.
That was a DIFFERENT TIME and PLACE and a TOTALLY FIFFERENT SITUATION! Nothing about U.S. INVOLVEMENT on that, obfuscating MSM?
But with less than a week after the disputed election, there is no way to know whether this show of force will fade or grow.
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Oh, yeah, just in case you think I'm full of it, here's another well-placed jewsmedia production JIT:
Film on exiled Iranian empress brings together a royal and a rebel
"Twitter has provably been hijacked as a new tool for propaganda, so of course you have to be told this is the place to go to get the "facts" about what is going on in Iran." -- Wake the Flock Up