Related: Emptying the Chamber: Gunning For the Senate
Filling it back up now:
"Deal to expand gun background checks takes form; Bipartisan effort in Senate could be a breakthrough" by Alan Fram | Associated Press, April 08, 2013
WASHINGTON — Two influential senators, one from each party, are working on an agreement that could expand background checks on firearms sales to include gun shows and online transactions, Senate aides said Sunday.
If completed, the effort could represent a breakthrough in the effort by President Obama and his allies to restrict guns following last December’s massacre of schoolchildren in Newtown, Conn.
The more they flog that psy-op the more suspicious and unbelievable it becomes.
The more they flog that psy-op the more suspicious and unbelievable it becomes.
Senators Joe Manchin, a West Virginia Democrat, and Pat Toomey, a Pennsylvania Republican, could nail down an accord early this week, said the aides, who spoke on condition of anonymity to describe the private talks.
With the Senate returning Monday from a two-week recess, the chamber’s debate on gun control legislation could begin as soon as Tuesday, though it might be delayed if the lawmakers need more time to complete a deal, the aides said.
The potential deal, which aides cautioned still might change, would exempt transactions between relatives and temporary transfers for hunters and sportsmen, they said.
Manchin is a moderate who touts an A rating from the National Rifle Association, which has opposed Obama’s gun control drive. Toomey has solid conservative credentials and was elected to the Senate two years ago with Tea Party support from his Democratic-leaning state.
We are getting some type of gun-grab, folks. What I resent as much as the disingenuous attempt at disarmament is the mouthpiece media's treatment of it like a football. Doesn't look like it's going to pass, prospects negative, and then Wolf Blitzer comes on with breaking news about a deal, and the paper reads with such applaud and approval the next day.
Once you've seen a movie a million times, you know...
We are getting some type of gun-grab, folks. What I resent as much as the disingenuous attempt at disarmament is the mouthpiece media's treatment of it like a football. Doesn't look like it's going to pass, prospects negative, and then Wolf Blitzer comes on with breaking news about a deal, and the paper reads with such applaud and approval the next day.
Once you've seen a movie a million times, you know...
A united front by the two lawmakers would make it easier for gun control advocates to attract support from moderate Democrats who have been wary of supporting the effort and from Republicans who have largely opposed it so far.
With conservative Republicans threatening a filibuster, Democrats will need 60 of the chamber’s 100 votes to prevail. There are 53 Democrats and two Democratic-leaning independents in the Senate....
Don't worry, they will get out of the way.
After 20 first-graders and six elementary school staffers were killed at Newtown, Obama proposed applying the requirement to virtually all firearms sales....
There they go again.
Don't worry, they will get out of the way.
After 20 first-graders and six elementary school staffers were killed at Newtown, Obama proposed applying the requirement to virtually all firearms sales....
There they go again.
On Monday, Obama will again make the case for gun legislation, with a speech at the University of Hartford. He will meet with relatives of the Newtown victims....
This is really an over-the-top production.
This is really an over-the-top production.
With or without an agreement on screening, the Senate gun legislation would toughen federal laws against illegal firearms sales, including against straw purchasers, those who buy firearms for criminals or others barred from owning them.
Does that mean the government won't be running them to Mexican drug cartels anymore?
Does that mean the government won't be running them to Mexican drug cartels anymore?
The legislation also would provide $40 million a year, a modest increase from current levels of $30 million, for a federal program that helps schools take safety measures such as reinforcing classroom doors.
Yup, MORE TYRANNY over a STAGED and SCRIPTED HOAX with MORE $$$ -- and yet SOCIAL SECURITY has to be CUT because the GOVERNMENT STOLE the TRUST FUND!
In addition, the gun bill contains language by Senator Charles Schumer (D-NY) to expand background checks to cover nearly all gun transactions, with narrow exceptions that include sales involving immediate relatives. Even without a bipartisan deal, Schumer is expected to expand the exemptions to more relatives, people with permits to carry concealed weapons, and others. Senator John McCain, Republican of Arizona, urged fellow Republicans to allow debate to go forward without a filibuster, even as he declined to express support for a background check bill.
What did I say above?
Yup, MORE TYRANNY over a STAGED and SCRIPTED HOAX with MORE $$$ -- and yet SOCIAL SECURITY has to be CUT because the GOVERNMENT STOLE the TRUST FUND!
In addition, the gun bill contains language by Senator Charles Schumer (D-NY) to expand background checks to cover nearly all gun transactions, with narrow exceptions that include sales involving immediate relatives. Even without a bipartisan deal, Schumer is expected to expand the exemptions to more relatives, people with permits to carry concealed weapons, and others. Senator John McCain, Republican of Arizona, urged fellow Republicans to allow debate to go forward without a filibuster, even as he declined to express support for a background check bill.
What did I say above?
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Related: Senate avoids filibuster on gun control legislation
Th one time you want them to filibuster and they don't.
Oh, and I'm SO tired of the political distortions and the garbage and the lies and the horse shit!!!!!!!!
"Obama makes emotional appeal for gun laws; Meets with Sandy Hook kin; urges action soon" by Nedra Pickler | Associated Press, April 09, 2013
Related: Senate avoids filibuster on gun control legislation
Th one time you want them to filibuster and they don't.
Oh, and I'm SO tired of the political distortions and the garbage and the lies and the horse shit!!!!!!!!
"Obama makes emotional appeal for gun laws; Meets with Sandy Hook kin; urges action soon" by Nedra Pickler | Associated Press, April 09, 2013
HARTFORD — With time running out on the chance to pass gun control legislation, President Obama on Monday warned Congress not to use delaying tactics against tighter regulations....
What is he, some kind of bully?
Obama’s gun control proposals have run into resistance on Capitol Hill, leaving their fate in doubt.
Yeap.
Efforts by Senate Democrats to reach a compromise with Republicans on expanding required federal background checks have yet to yield an agreement, and conservatives were promising to try blocking the Senate from even beginning debate on gun control legislation.
‘‘The day Newtown happened was the toughest day of my presidency,’’ Obama said in an emotional speech from Connecticut’s capital, an hour’s drive from Newtown....
This is shameless s***, folks. I'm sorry, but if you do the investigations and watch the videos you realize this all staged and scripted s***.
Then again, I suppose it's okay to serve the "greater good."
Some of the Sandy Hook families are making an attempt to push through the bill. Obama met with them privately before his speech at the University of Hartford Monday evening, then brought 12 family members back to Air Force One for the trip back to Washington.
They are great actors.
The relatives want to meet with senators who have yet to back the legislation to encourage their support in memory of their loved ones....
Why were all those memorial web sites set up days before the event happened?
Obama’s speech was interrupted repeatedly by standing ovations from the packed gymnasium. At one point, the room erupted with chants of ‘‘We want a vote!’’ Audience members, many wearing green ribbons in support of the victims, were stomping their feet on the bleachers and clapping their hands in unison with the chant....
Almost has the feel of a Nazi Party rally, doesn't it?
‘‘If there’s even one thing we can do to prevent a father from having to bury his child, isn’t that worth fighting for?’’ Obama asked.
Wow. Tell it all those innocents you've killed with the drone strikes, you bastard.
Obama argued that lawmakers have an obligation to the children killed and other victims of gun violence to allow an up-or-down vote in the Senate. That would require 50 votes to pass, rather than a procedural maneuver some Republican senators are threatening to require 60 votes, potentially sinking the legislation.
‘‘Some back in Washington are already floating the idea that they may use political stunts to prevent votes on any of these reforms. Think about that. They’re not just saying they’ll vote no on ideas that almost all Americans support. They’re saying they’ll do everything they can to even prevent any votes on these provisions. They’re saying your opinion doesn’t matter. And that’s not right.’’
That's rich coming from him.
Obama rode to the speech with Connecticut Governor Dannel P. Malloy, who signed sweeping gun control legislation into law Thursday with the Sandy Hook families standing behind him. But legislation in Washington faces a tougher challenge, as the nation’s memories of the shooting fade and the National Rifle Association wages a formidable campaign against Obama’s proposals.
Majority Leader Harry Reid brought gun control legislation to the Senate floor on Monday, though actual debate did not begin. He took the step after receiving a letter from 13 conservative Republican senators including Senator Mike Lee of Utah, saying they would use delaying tactics to try to prevent lawmakers from beginning to consider the measure. Such a move takes 60 votes to overcome, a tough hurdle in the 100-member chamber.
The conservatives said the Democratic measure would violate the Second Amendment right to bear arms, citing ‘‘history’s lesson that government cannot be in all places at all times, and history’s warning about the oppression of a government that tries.’’
Yeah, thanks for stopping it.
And listen to him. I suppose the murderous regimes of the Soviet Union and China were just tying to hard.
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"Several in GOP won’t take part in filibuster of gun bill; Reid planning to schedule first vote Thursday" by Jonathan Weisman and Jennifer Steinhauer | New York Times, April 10, 2013
WASHINGTON — Democrats appeared on the verge of overcoming a blockade....
The war terminology permeates everything in my war paper.
Senator Harry Reid of Nevada, the majority leader, said he would schedule an initial showdown vote for Thursday. If backers of the measure can corral at least 60 votes, the Senate would begin consideration of a series of gun safety proposals — strongly supported by President Obama — that would still face a long and difficult journey across the Senate floor.
Pffft! It's going to a vote on the floor for needing only 50 votes now. It's a fait accompli. Of course, that would spoil the ma$$ media game and fun, wouldn't it? Breaking news!
The bill, which would increase penalties for illegal gun purchase and greatly expand background checks on gun buyers, would still need 60 votes to end the ensuing debate after consideration of contentious amendments, including a renewal of the assault weapons ban. Should it cross that hurdle, 51 votes would be needed to get to final passage. Even with Democrats controlling 55 seats, no majority was assured given the resistance of some Democrats from more conservative states who face reelection next year.
This was yesterday. Can you see why I'm sick of the s***?
Even as Reid scheduled a vote, Senator Joe Manchin III, Democrat of West Virginia, and Patrick J. Toomey, a Pennsylvania Republican, were very near a deal that would likely serve as a substitute amendment replacing the background check piece of the measure Reid is seeking a vote on, one that would almost certainly appeal to a broader base of members than the one now at the heart of the debate. Their measure would have fewer gun buyers included in newly expanded checks but allow for the record-keeping many Republicans have opposed. The two were expected to announce a deal Wednesday. Manchin briefed Reid late Tuesday.
Still, eking out the first 60 votes would represent momentum for the bill’s supporters in the Senate, and an egg-on-the-face moment for those Republican senators led by some younger conservatives who chose to highlight their efforts to kill the bill before debate, a procedural move usually done more stealthily.
‘‘We’re moving forward on this bill,’’ said Reid, who earlier Tuesday evoked his own father’s suicide by gunshot to implore consideration of the legislation. ‘‘The American people deserve a vote on this legislation.’’
We don't want a vote.
Senate Republicans began splintering Tuesday on whether the bill should be allowed full consideration on the floor, with nearly a dozen, including Kelly Ayotte of New Hampshire, Susan Collins of Maine, Johnny Isakson of Georgia, and Tom Coburn of Oklahoma, saying they would support a procedural motion to formally take up the legislation for debate and amendments.
‘‘There’s not very much ambivalence on Capitol Hill about the gun issue,’’ Isakson said. ‘‘You’re on one side or the other, so there’s no reason not to go ahead and vote.’’
The dynamic potentially sets scores of Democrats who staunchly support new gun control measures against moderates from their own party. Many of those members are up for reelection next year and would rather not see the bill move forward.
Yeap.
Reid’s decision to forge ahead came as lobbying on gun control stepped up on Capitol Hill, with the families of those killed in Newtown, Conn., four months ago fanning out across the Senate to appeal to lawmakers to vote for legislation to expand background checks for gun buyers and limit the size of magazines. “I think we bring a face to this tragedy,’’ said Mark Barden, whose son Daniel was among the 20 children killed at Newtown.
Related:
"The families of the 20 children and six staff members killed in the December shooting at Sandy Hook are a diverse group politically. They include gun owners, and Democrats and Republicans. They don’t always agree on gun policy."
What?
The group of parents was reluctant to discuss who they met with, although according to several Senate Democrats, it was largely members from their party. ‘‘We’re encouraged and arranged meetings, whenever possible, with Republicans and Democrats,’’ said Senator Richard Blumenthal, Democrat of Connecticut. ‘‘Some of my colleagues were more welcoming than others.’’
The decision by some Senate Republicans to abandon the filibuster on what is formally known as a motion to proceed came less than 24 hours after Senator Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the Republican leader, announced his support for the filibuster, resulting in a rare show of disunity among Senate Republicans. Thirteen senators, led by a core of younger conservatives, had vowed to try to block any legislation that they saw as infringing on the constitutional right to bear arms.
Yeah, really been a bad week for Mitch.
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"New England senators split on gun legislation" by Julia Edwards | Globe Correspondent, April 11, 2013
WASHINGTON — The massacre of 20 children and six adults in a Connecticut school united New Englanders in grief, but just a few months later the region’s US senators are cleanly divided along geographical lines over how to respond.
As the Senate prepares to begin voting on gun legislation as early as Thursday, no senators from New England’s northern tier of states — Vermont, New Hampshire, and Maine — expressed support for a bill that would ban sales of assault weapons and limit magazine capacity, according to a Globe poll of their positions. They ranged from outright opposition to indecision to a refusal to respond to questions.
Nearly all of the northern senators have declined to support a companion bill to improve background checks for gun buyers....
The Dec. 14 massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., sent a powerful shock wave through the communities of New England, where many towns share Newtown’s village character, stone walls, rural lanes, and exurban neighborhoods. But....
It never happened. I know it's hard to believe, but this is all a massive staged and scripted psy-op.
Even though national polls show considerable support for gun control, the northern states have deeper traditions of hunting and shooting, and powerful constituencies that seek to protect residents’ rights to own high-capacity, high-powered weapons. New Hampshire license plates still sport the motto “Live Free or Die,’’ and the ability to carry a high-powered assault rifle with dozens of bullets is still viewed in many quarters as a cherished right....
I no longer believe polls cited by agenda-pushing media, sorry.
Also see: Raffling Off a Few Rifles in New Hampshire
Yeah, what's wrong with them up there?
“There is not a connection between [northern New England] and Newtown,’’ added Andrew Smith, a political scientist and pollster at the University of New Hampshire. “I don’t think people here even consider Connecticut part of New England.”
Isn't it part of New York?
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It is opposition from Democrats in rural states that leads most observers to predict the bill containing the assault weapons ban and magazine limits will not pass the Senate....
Yeap.
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"NRA details plan to put armed guards in schools; Makes case ahead of debate in Congress" by Sheryl Gay Stolberg | New York Times, April 03, 2013
WASHINGTON — With the Senate set to debate gun control this month, a National Rifle Association task force released a 225-page report Tuesday that called for armed police officers, security guards, or staff members in every US school, and urged states to loosen gun restrictions to allow trained teachers and administrators to carry weapons.
Asa Hutchinson, a former Republican congressman from Arkansas who led the task force, unveiled the report at a packed news conference with unusually heavy security, including a bomb-sniffing yellow Labrador retriever. A dozen officers in plain clothes and uniforms stood watch as Hutchinson spoke; one warned photographers to ‘‘remain stationary’’ during the event.
Among the study’s central conclusions is that ‘‘the presence of armed security personnel adds a layer of security and diminishes response time’’ in a shooting, Hutchinson said.
He cited a 1997 Mississippi incident in which an assistant principal ran to his truck to retrieve a .45-caliber semiautomatic pistol and subdued a gunman who had already shot two students.
The recommendations — which also included expanding the police presence in schools — drew immediate criticism from gun control advocates and many Democrats, who have been fighting to tighten gun restrictions after the massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn, in December.
''Arming the teacher is merely a response to the last tragedy,’’ said Representative Mike Thompson, a California Democrat who is chairman of a House task force on gun violence. ‘‘The one before that was in a shopping mall in Oregon, and the one before that was in a movie theater in Colorado. I don’t think the proper response is to arm all the projectionists in the movie theaters or all the vendors in the mall.’’
Cluing you into the fact that those were either Gladio-style false flag operations or complete hoaxes.
See:
I've seen that movie too many times.
After the Newtown shooting, Wayne LaPierre, the rifle association’s executive director, announced that the association would come up with a plan to put armed guards in every school.
Wait until the first student is blown away because the guard thought he saw a gun. I imagine the School Committee may reevaluate the idea after the fallout and law$uit.
Technically, Hutchison’s task force is independent of the rifle association, even though it paid for the study, and LaPierre was not present Tuesday.
But critics see no distinction between the two.
Marian Wright Edelman, president of the Children’s Defense Fund, an advocacy group here, criticized the study as ‘‘nothing more than a continuation of the NRA’s attempts to prey on America’s fears, saturate our schools with more guns, and turn them into armed fortresses.’’
But the report did get support from at least one Newtown parent: Mark Mattioli, whose 6-year-old son, James, was killed at Sandy Hook.
''I think politics needs to be set aside here, and I hope this doesn’t lead to name-calling,’’ said Mattioli, who joined Hutchinson at the news conference. ‘‘This is a recommendation for solutions, real solutions that will make our kids safer. That’s what we need.’’
What WE NEED is the TRUTH!!
The timing of Tuesday’s announcement was not a coincidence: Congress will wrap up its spring recess after this week and is expected to consider gun legislation after lawmakers return. President Obama has called for tough new controls on gun ownership, but the prospects for such legislation are murky — a testimony to the rifle association’s prowess as a lobbying force....
Too bad they didn't have the clout of Israel; they could have gotten a unanimous vote in their favor.
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Those going the other way:
"Georgia town OK’s measure to require gun ownership; Won’t be enforced but is meant to send a message" by Kate Brumback | Associated Press, April 03, 2013
NELSON, Ga. — Backers of a newly adopted ordinance requiring gun ownership in a small north Georgia town acknowledge that they were largely seeking to make a point about gun rights.
The ordinance in the city of Nelson — population 1,300 — was approved Monday night and goes into effect in 10 days. However, it contains no penalties and exempts anyone who objects, convicted felons, and those with certain mental and physical disabilities.
City Councilor Duane Cronic, who sponsored the measure, said he knows the ordinance won’t be enforced but he still believes it will make the town safer....
They don't know about Kennesaw, Georgia, the town with the lowest crime rate in AmeriKa?
Another purpose, according to the City Council’s agenda, is ‘‘opposition of any future attempt by the federal government to confiscate personal firearms.’’
Yeah, this government isn't going to be able to establish martial law and disarm the people. The soldiers they have lied to, used, and left damaged won't put us down. Maybe the government wants a war to oppress, but the fact is they are far outnumbered.
Already talking confiscation -- and doing it.
Council members in Nelson, a small city located 50 miles north of Atlanta, voted unanimously to approve the Family Protection Ordinance. The measure requires every head of household to own a gun and ammunition to ‘‘provide for the emergency management of the city’’ and to ‘‘provide for and protect the safety, security, and general welfare of the city and its inhabitants.’’
Just as the Founding Fathers intended!
Related: Can You Hear Me Running?
Can you hear me calling you?
Nelson resident Lamar Kellett was one of five people who spoke during a public comment period Monday night and one of two who opposed the ordinance. Among his many objections, he said it dilutes the city’s laws to pass measures that aren’t intended to be enforced.
‘‘Does this mean now 55 miles an hour speed limit means 65, 80, whatever you choose? There’s not a whole lot of difference. A law’s a law,’’ he said.
Kellett also said the ordinance will have no effect, that it won’t encourage people like him who don’t want a gun to go out and buy one.
The proposal illustrates how the response to the massacre at an elementary school in Newtown, Conn., varies widely in different parts of the country.
While lawmakers in generally more liberal states with large urban centers like New York and California have moved to tighten gun control laws, more conservative, rural areas in the American heartland have been going in the opposite direction.
It's called a backfire.
Located in the Appalachian foothills, Nelson is a tiny, hilly town with narrow, twisting roads. It’s a place where most people know one another and leave their doors unlocked.
This town used to be that way.
The mayor said he never dreamed his small city would be the focus of national and international media attention, but he understands it.
Police Chief Heath Mitchell noted that the city doesn’t have police officers who work 24 hours a day and is far from the two sheriff’s offices that might send deputies in case of trouble, so response times to emergency calls can be long. Having a gun would help residents take their protection into their own hands, he said.
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Of course, since Georgia is going the other way we need some incident to get 'em on board:
"Gunman holding firefighters dead after standoff" by Johnny Clark and Phillip Lucas | Associated Press, April 11, 2013
SUWANEE, Ga. — A gunman who was having financial problems held four firefighters for hours in a suburban Atlanta home, demanding his cable and power be turned back on, before being shot dead when SWAT members stormed the house, authorities said Wednesday. The hostages had cuts and bruises from explosions officers set off to distract the gunman before moving in, but they will be fine, a fire official said.
Related: All A.O.K. With This Alabama Article
They really do read like a script. They ever retrieve Dykes' body?
Minutes before police announced the resolution, a huge blast could be heard a quarter-mile away from the home, shuddering through the suburban neighborhood 35 miles northeast of Atlanta.
Earlier Wednesday, five firefighters responded to what seemed like a routine medical call and were eventually taken hostage by an unidentified suspect inside the house, police said. The gunman released one of the firefighters to move a fire truck but held the other four.
The situation remained tense until the blast rocked the neighborhood. Residents unable to get into their neighborhood because of the police cordon flinched and recoiled after the enormous blast went off.
Soon after the stun blast, officers exchanged gunfire with the suspect and a SWAT member was shot in the hand or arm, but should be fine, said Gwinnett County Police Corporal Edwin Ritter. Ritter would not say how the gunman, who was not identified, was fatally shot, saying it was being investigated.
Did this even really happen?
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NEXT DAY UPDATE:
"Lauren Brown, 55, was armed with a half-dozen guns, [and] told the firefighters that he had planned the hostage-taking for weeks. A SWAT officer posing as someone delivering food [shot him]. Before Brown fired, police told him to drop his weapon."
NEXT DAY UPDATE:
"Lauren Brown, 55, was armed with a half-dozen guns, [and] told the firefighters that he had planned the hostage-taking for weeks. A SWAT officer posing as someone delivering food [shot him]. Before Brown fired, police told him to drop his weapon."
Now we are told it's all a "breakdown in the reporting system."
They can't even manage they laws that are on the books and they want more.
Closer to home:
"Connecticut passes wide-ranging gun control law" by Susan Haigh | Associated Press, April 04, 2013
HARTFORD, Conn. — Connecticut lawmakers gave final approval early Thursday to a wide-ranging bill that includes sweeping new restrictions on weapons and large capacity ammunition magazines, a response to last year’s deadly school shooting in Newtown that one lawmaker called ‘‘the nation’s worst nightmare.’’
That's the real trick. Automatic weapons not that useful if you have to keep reloading. Now you will be at the mercy of the government thug or the drug-dealing crooks.
Following a total of more than 13 hours of respectful and at times somber debate, the House and the Senate voted in favor of the 139-page bill crafted by leaders from both major parties in the Democratic-controlled General Assembly.
The December massacre, which reignited a national debate on gun control, set the stage for changes in the state that may have been impossible elsewhere: The governor, who personally informed parents that their children had been killed that day, championed the cause, and legislative leaders, keenly aware of the attention on the state, struck a bipartisan agreement they want to serve as a national model.
Just a Freudian slip up there, or.... ???
The bill passed 26-10 in the Senate and 105-44 in the House of Representatives. Both were bipartisan votes. The bill now goes to Democratic Gov. Dannel P. Malloy, who was scheduled to sign it at noon on Thursday during a ceremony at the state Capitol....
The legislation adds more than 100 firearms to the state’s assault weapons ban and creates what officials have called the nation’s first dangerous weapon offender registry as well as eligibility rules for buying ammunition. Some parts of the bill would take effect immediately after Malloy’s signature, including background checks for all firearms sales.
Connecticut will join states including California, New York, New Jersey and Massachusetts in having the country’s strongest gun control laws, said Brian Malte, director of mobilization for the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence in Washington....
Colorado and New York also passed new gun control requirements in the wake of the Newtown shooting, in which a 20-year-old gunman used a military-style semi-automatic rifle.
Did he? Why was his death notice posted a day before the killings, and why was that gun found in the car?
Compared with Connecticut’s legislation, which, for example, bans the sale or purchase of ammunition magazines holding more than 10 rounds, New York restricted magazines to seven bullets and gave owners of higher-capacity magazines a year to sell them elsewhere. Colorado banned ammunition magazines that hold more than 15 rounds.
I see them all connected in some sort of Gladio-style psy-op, sorry.
‘‘There are pieces that are stronger in other states, but, in totality, this will be the strongest gun legislation passed in the United States,’’ Betty Gallo, a lobbyist for Connecticut Against Gun Violence, said of the Connecticut bill.
Many legislators spoke of balancing the rights of gun owners with addressing the horror of the Sandy Hook shooting. They've received thousands of emails and phone calls urging them to vote for or against the bill, with veteran Sen. Joan Hartley, a Democrat, saying she’s never seen a more polarizing issue at the state Capitol.
Gun rights advocates who greatly outnumbered gun control supporters in demonstrations held earlier in the day at the Capitol railed against the proposals as misguided and unconstitutional, occasionally chanting ‘‘No! No! No!’’ and ‘‘Read the bill!’’
Yes, I've already remarked on that.
‘‘We want them to write laws that are sensible,’’ said Ron Pariseau, of Pomfret, who was angry he'll be made a felon if he doesn’t register his weapons that will no longer be sold in Connecticut. ‘‘What they’re proposing will not stop anything.’’
By the time the Senate voted around 6:30 p.m., many of the gun rights advocates had gone home, leaving behind proponents of the bill who applauded when the tally in the Senate was read.
That's because they have lives, unlike the paid agenda-pushing propagandists that could hang around.
In the legislature, where Democrats control both houses, leaders waited to unveil gun legislation until they struck a bipartisan deal that they say shows how the parties can work together elsewhere. They touted the package as a comprehensive response to Newtown that also addresses mental health and school security measures, including the creation of a new council to establish school safety standards and the expansion of circumstances when someone’s mental history disqualifies him or her from obtaining a gun permit or other gun credentials.
I'm not saying unstable people should have a gun; however, I do see the incremental approach of tyranny.
But momentum on federal legislation has stalled in Congress, and President Barack Obama has planned a trip to Connecticut on Monday to step up pressure to pass a bill.
It's rolling now.
A silent majority in favor of stronger gun control has emerged following the Newtown massacre, Gallo said....
Yeah, Nixon claimed a silent majority, too.
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Related:
Psy-ops mind f*** continues.
Then ban bats.
Those not silent:
"1,000 gun-rights advocates crowd Boston Common" by Brian MacQuarrie | Globe Staff, April 03, 2013
American flags mixed with Revolutionary War banners that warned, “Don’t Tread on Me.” Dire predictions of tyranny spurred cries of defiance from 1,000 people on Boston Common. And the overarching message, delivered by a parade of speakers Wednesday to a receptive audience, was that gun control will subvert the US Constitution and open the door to a police state....
Well, we are already in a police state. Taking the guns away will only lessen the ability of the people to fight back.
After the hour-long rally, many in the crowd walked to the State House, where Governor Deval Patrick and legislators have proposed restrictions including capacity limits for ammunition magazines, a limit on monthly gun purchases, and a mandate that gun owners buy liability insurance.
Greg Wolodkin, 46, of Sutton, shook his head when asked at the rally whether new regulations are needed in the wake of mass shootings at Newtown and elsewhere.
“It feels like taking away cars from sober people to drop drunk driving,” Wolodkin said.
Good analogy. Or like taking knives away from people because of stabbings.
Nearby, Arthur Saarinen, 61, a Lexington resident and graphic artist at MIT, said, “If you look at history, every autocratic or totalitarian government has always gone through this process of trying to disarm its populace.”
No Tea Party nut there, and he's right. Stalin's Soviet Russia and Hitler's Nazi Germany are two great examples.
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"Laws, rumors have ammo flying off store shelves" by Michael Virtanen | Associated Press, April 05, 2013
ALBANY, N.Y. —Rumors of government hoarding....
Not just rumors.
Any wonder I read them with a cynical and skeptical eye and don't believe a damn thing?
The run started in November with President Obama’s reelection, followed by the mass shooting in December in Newtown....
Some attribute shortages to federal buying of bullets, accusing officials of trying to hoard a billion rounds and disarm the populace. The government routinely buys products in bulk; Homeland Security said the latest purchases are no different.
Yeah, right, it's SOP.
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Also see:
We can’t let the gun lobby win
Gun rights supporters rally at State House
Ever notice there are a lot more protesters at their events?
"N.J. 6-year-old shot by 4-year-old" by Bruce Shipkowski | Associated Press, April 10, 2013
TOMS RIVER, N.J. — A 4 year old who brought a gun outside his southern New Jersey home seriously wounded a 6-year-old neighbor in the head when the weapon discharged as they played together, authorities said Tuesday.
The boy got the .22-caliber rifle from his home in Toms River and it discharged accidentally Monday night, Ocean County Prosecutor Joseph Coronato said....
Coronato said it was too early in the investigation to know whether anyone would be charged. He would not say who owned the gun or speculate on how the 4-year-old got it.
Police Chief Michael Mastronardy called the shooting tragic and said it affected the whole community.
‘‘Right now, we’re keeping this child in our prayers, and I ask everyone to do the same,’’ he said....
‘‘I’m angry with whoever owns that gun and allowed a little child to get hold of it,’’ said Debi Coto, who lives a few doors down....
The shooting came just days after a 4-year-old boy in Tennessee grabbed a loaded gun at a family cookout and accidentally shot to death the wife of a sheriff’s deputy, and amid debate over gun control laws in the wake of December’s Connecticut school massacre.
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We have children shooting children, dear 'murkns. How can you be against the confiscation of your guns?
Of course, ever notice the cops get to keep theirs after being absolved of any crime when they shoot civilians? And when police are threatened the response is always to heavily arm themselves?
The use of the children in these fake psy-op stories -- I truly do question whether they happened at all given the Sandy Hook hoax and Weiss's wisdom -- is proof that their staged and scripted lies using actors has backfired big time.
