Tuesday, August 25, 2009

Obama to Refine Bush-Era Torture Techniques

"The Obama task force advised that the group develop a “scientific research program for interrogation’’ to develop new techniques and study existing ones to see whether they work. In essence, the unit will determine a set of best practices on interrogation.... White House officials said they plan to continue the controversial practice of rendition"

Change would be torture stopping completely, no?

Change would be admitting we are torturing innocent people who aren't even responsible for that false-flag monstrosity and everything that has flowed from it.

"Obama creates elite team to handle terror interrogations; President shifts oversight from CIA" by Anne E. Kornblut, Washington Post | August 24, 2009

WASHINGTON - President Obama has approved the creation of an elite team of interrogators to question key suspected terrorists, part of a broader effort to revamp US policy on detention and interrogation, senior administration officials said yesterday.

Obama signed off late last week on the new unit, named the High-Value Detainee Interrogation Group, or HIG. Composed of specialists from several intelligence and law enforcement agencies, the interrogation unit will be housed at the FBI but will be overseen by the National Security Council - shifting the center of gravity away from the CIA and giving the White House direct oversight....

The Obama task force advised that the group develop a “scientific research program for interrogation’’ to develop new techniques and study existing ones to see whether they work. In essence, the unit will determine a set of best practices on interrogation and share them with other agencies that question prisoners.

The administration is releasing the new guidelines on the day that the worst practices of the Bush administration are being given another public airing. New details of prisoner treatment are expected to be included in a long-awaited CIA inspector general’s report being unveiled about the spy agency’s interrogation program.

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Is that why they are now "investigating" it?

So they can develop scientific research and best practices?

WASHINGTON --The Obama administration launched a criminal investigation Monday into harsh questioning of detainees during President George W. Bush's war on terrorism, revealing CIA interrogators' threats to kill one suspect's children and to force another to watch his mother sexually assaulted.

I'm confessing to all the murders in the history of the world -- or whatever it is you want me to say. I mean right away.

And I don't want to complain too much; this is a start.

If America is ever to regain its reputation we must jail some high-level f***s for this abominable s***. I mean, if we aren't doing it for the treason, lies and millions of dead, we can at least do it for this, no?

Seeking information about possible further attacks after Sept. 11, 2001, interrogators threatened one detainee with a gun and a power drill, choked another and tried to frighten still another with a mock execution of another prisoner.

"Ten years from now we're going to be sorry we're doing this (but) it has to be done," one unidentified CIA officer was quoted as saying, predicting the questioners would someday have to appear in court to answer for such tactics.

Monday's documents represent the largest single release of information about the Bush administration's once-secret system of capturing terrorism suspects and interrogating them in overseas prisons.

White House officials said they plan to continue the controversial practice of rendition of suspects to foreign countries, though they said that in future cases they would more carefully check to make sure such suspects are not tortured.

You mean, like what we would do to them?

In one instance cited in the new documents, Abd al-Nashiri, the man accused of being behind the 2000 USS Cole bombing, was hooded, handcuffed and threatened with an unloaded gun and a power drill.

Yeah, about the Cole.

The unidentified interrogator also threatened al-Nashiri's mother and family, implying they would be sexually abused in front of him, according to the report. The interrogator denied making a direct threat.

Another interrogator told alleged Sept. 11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, "if anything else happens in the United States, 'We're going to kill your children,'" one veteran officer said in the report. Death threats violate anti-torture laws.

This has all been reported before; as usual, MSM is way behind.

In another instance, an interrogator choked off the carotid artery of a detainee until he started to pass out, then shook him awake. He did this three times. The interrogator, a CIA debriefer accustomed to questioning willing subjects, said he had only recently been trained to conduct interrogations.

Sen. Patrick Leahy, the Democratic chairman of the Judiciary Committee, said the revelations showed the Bush administration went down a "dark road of excusing torture."

But top Republican senators said they were troubled by the decision to begin a new investigation, which they said could weaken U.S. intelligence efforts.

Investigators credited the detention-and-interrogation program for developing intelligence that prevented multiple attacks against Americans. One CIA operative interviewed for the report said the program thwarted al-Qaida plots to attack the U.S. Embassy in Pakistan, derail trains, blow up gas stations and cut the suspension line of a bridge.

You know, I'm so sick of this same old, shopworn bull-oney!

NOT BUYING the TURD no more, MSM , and NEVER WILL AGAIN!

We KNOW what AL-CIA-DUH is now and nothing will ever be the same.

"In this regard, there is no doubt that the program has been effective," investigators wrote, backing an argument by Cheney and others that the program saved lives.

But the inspector general said it was unclear whether so-called "enhanced interrogation" tactics contributed to that success. Those tactics include waterboarding, a simulated drowning technique that the Obama administration says is torture. Measuring the success of such interrogation is "a more subjective process and not without some concern," the report said....

That brings about involuntary physical reactions that truly are terrifying.

CIA Director Leon Panetta said in an e-mail message to agency employees Monday that he intended "to stand up for those officers who did what their country asked and who followed the legal guidance they were given. That is the president's position, too," he said....

And the rest, unsurprisingly, is a whack job from the website.

I'm sitting here reading it as I type it
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In a statement, Attorney General Eric Holder said the opening of an investigation does not necessarily mean that criminal charges will follow....

He appointed prosecutor John Durham, a deputy US attorney in Connecticut, who was appointed in 1999 as a special prosecutor to oversee the investigation of the FBI's use of James "Whitey" Bulger and Stephen "The Rifleman" Flemmi as informants.

Related: FBI Frame Jobs Go Way Back

FBI Ran Interference For Informant Killers

The FBI is Organized Crime

Durham helped secure the 2002 conviction of former FBI agent John Connolly on racketering charges and also uncovered documents that helped persuade a judge to throw out the 1968 murder convictions of Joseph Salvati and Peter J. Limone. In 2007, those documents helped Savati, Limone, and the families of two other men who had died in prison win a $101.7 million civil judgment against the government....

Those are YOUR TAX DOLLARS, Americans!

Think they are being well spent?

Yeah, I can see why the Globe would want to 'update" that, huh?


Obama campaigned vigorously against Bush administration interrogation practices in his successful run for the presidency. He has said more recently he didn't particularly favor prosecuting officials in connection with instances of prisoner abuse....

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But we do have change!

Obama names names:


"Pentagon shifts, gives Red Cross detainees’ names; Move marks significant shift in military policy" by Eric Schmitt, New York Times | August 23, 2009

WASHINGTON - In a reversal of Pentagon policy, the military for the first time is notifying the International Committee of the Red Cross of the identities of militants who were being held in secret at a camp in Iraq and another in Afghanistan run by US Special Operations forces, according to three military officials.

The change begins to lift the veil from the US government’s most secretive remaining overseas prisons by allowing the Red Cross to track the custody of dozens of the most dangerous suspected terrorists and foreign fighters plucked off the battlefields in Iraq and Afghanistan.

It is a major advance for the organization in its long fight to gain more information about these detainees. The military had previously insisted that disclosing any details about detainees at the secretive camps could tip off other militants and jeopardize counterterrorism missions.

Detention practices will be in the spotlight this week. Tomorrow, the CIA is to release a highly critical 2004 report on the agency’s interrogation program by the CIA inspector general.

The long awaited report provides new details about abuses that took place inside the agency’s secret prisons, including CIA officers carrying out mock executions and threatening at least one prisoner with a gun and a power drill.

It is a violation of the federal torture statute to threaten a detainee with imminent death.

Also, Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. is expected to decide in the next several days whether to appoint a criminal prosecutor to investigate the interrogations of terrorism suspects after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

The new Pentagon policy on detainees took effect this month with no public announcement from the military or the Red Cross. It represents another shift in detention policy by the Obama administration....

That's the way the paper is making it sound. I guess it is change, however minimal. Red Cross got a name; did they get a number, too?

Unlike the secret prisons run by the CIA that President Obama ordered closed in January, the military continues to operate the Special Operations camps, which it calls temporary screening sites, in Balad, Iraq, and Bagram, Afghanistan.

So again, there REALLY IS NO CHANGE other than the NAMES!!!

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Related:

"Legal experts believe a number of cases can’t be prosecuted because conditions were so harsh in Guantanamo, Afghanistan, and secret CIA “black sites’’ elsewhere. The number of cases involved isn’t known publicly since most of the background is still classified"

And the TORTURE CONTINUES as I TYPE!


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