"Salt Lake City OK’s gay rights laws with Mormon help; But church stays steadfast against same-sex union" by Jennifer Dobner, Associated Press | November 12, 2009
SALT LAKE CITY - The Mormon church for the first time has disclosed its support of gay rights legislation, an endorsement that helped gain unanimous approval for Salt Lake City laws banning discrimination against gays in housing and employment.
(Blog editor shaking head from side-to-side with bllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll sound effects)
Say what? The TOLERANT but "hateful" Mormons?
See: Reason Number Three Why No One Reads the Boston Globe Anymore
Yeah, that's the kind of impression that will be left when you push an agenda and lie about those who stand in the way.
The Utah-based church’s support ahead of Tuesday night’s vote came despite its steadfast opposition to gay marriage, reflected in the high-profile role it played last year in California’s Proposition 8 ballot measure that barred such unions....
Related: Gay Hate Day in the Globe
I'm tired of the issue.
Utah lawmakers tend to quickly fall in line when the influential church makes a rare foray into legislative politics. So Tuesday’s action could have broad effects in this highly conservative state where more than 80 percent of lawmakers and the governor are church members.
I compare that to the Zionist grip on other statehouses and the federal branches and marvel at the omission in that case.
“What happened here tonight I do believe is a historic event,’’ said Brandie Balken, director of the gay rights advocacy group Equality Utah. “I think it establishes that we can stand together on common ground that we don’t have to agree on everything, but there are lot of things that we can work on and be allies.’’
Do we agree on ENDING the WARS (gays get killed over lies, too)?
Can we agree on UNIVERSAL SINGLE-PAYER HEALTHCARE (gays get sick, too)?
It's a start!!
But the church has pointed out an inherent dispute it has with gay relationships.
Yup, ALWAYS a BUT with a ZIONIST!!!
Mormonism considers traditional marriages central to God’s plan. Gays are welcome in church, but must remain celibate to retain church callings and full membership.
(Blog editor shaking head from side-to-side with bllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll sound effects)
So BUT WHAT, BUT WHAT, BUT WHAT?
Its strong support for Proposition 8 in California last year drew a sharp reaction from gay rights supporters nationwide, with many protesting outside temples that singled out Mormons as the key culprits in restricting the rights of gay couples.
Yeah, and THEN THREATENED THEM like TERRORISTS!!!!!!!!
Since then, however, Utah’s gay community has sought to engage church leaders in quiet conversations to help foster better understanding, said Valerie Larabee, executive director of the Utah Pride Center....
I can not believe I am ALMOST in TEARS because of the GOOD GAYS!!!
I KNEW you were LEGION -- as opposed the the NARROW SLIVER of a PRISM the Zionist AmeriKan MSM portrays!!!!!
This doesn't sound very divisive, either.
But
Readers!!! Need I even mention it again?
addressing the council on Tuesday, Michael Otterson, the director of public affairs for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, said the endorsement is not a shift in the church’s position on gay rights and stressed it “remains unequivocally committed to defending the bedrock foundation of marriage between a man and a woman.’’
Then expect continued attacks on you and your church.
See: Mormons More Faithful Than Government
Oh, TOLD LIES about those MORMON FOLK, huh, GUVERNMINT!???
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And I do not like featuring the Globe's resident neo-con op writer; however, when he has a point....
"Wedded to vitriol, backers of gay marriage stumble" by Jeff Jacoby, Globe Columnist | November 11, 2009
ON ELECTION DAY, voters in Maine repealed a six-month-old state law authorizing same-sex marriage. Maine was the 31st state in which the legal definition of marriage was put to a vote, and the 31st in which voters rejected gay marriage. And once again, the response from many on the losing side was bitter.
“Bigotry trumps compassion,’’ wrote commentator Michael Stone, calling the vote “a shameful display of ignorance, bigotry, and hate.’’ In the Maine Campus, the newspaper of the University of Maine, columnist Samantha Hansen denounced the voters who “let hatred, confusion, misinformation, and ignorance emerge victorious over liberty.’’
Gee, they really got out after you, didn't they, Maine voters?
See: Maine Makes MSM Monitor Happy
When will it occur to supporters of same-sex marriage that they do their cause no good by characterizing those who disagree with them as haters, bigots, and ignorant homophobes? It may be emotionally satisfying to despise as moral cripples the majorities who oppose gay marriage. But after going 0 for 31 - after failing to make the case for same-sex marriage even in such liberal and largely gay-friendly states as California, Wisconsin, Oregon, and now Maine - isn’t it time to stop caricaturing their opponents as the equivalent of Jim Crow-era segregationists? Wouldn’t it make more sense to concede that thoughtful voters can have reasonable concerns about gay marriage, concerns that will not be allayed by describing those voters as contemptible troglodytes?
I oppose same-sex marriage for reasons previous columns have explored. I think it would be reckless to jettison the understanding, as old as civilization itself, that society has a deep interest in promoting families anchored by a married man and woman. It seems to me nonsensical to claim that men and women are utterly interchangeable, or to deny that children are likeliest to thrive when they are raised by both a mother and a father. I believe that timeless moral standards must not be casually overturned and that doing so is apt to have unintended and unfortunate consequences. And I am sure that legalizing same-sex wedlock would fuel demands for further radical change - legalizing plural marriage, for example.
But strongly opposing gay marriage doesn’t mean I don’t understand why many people just as strongly favor it. I can sympathize with committed gay and lesbian couples who feel demeaned by the law’s rejection of same-sex marriage or who crave the proof of societal acceptance, the cloak of normalcy, that a marriage license would provide. I don’t regard the redefinition of marriage as a civil rights issue; nor do I buy the argument that laws barring same-sex marriage are comparable to the laws that once barred interracial marriage. But I recognize that many people - sincere and decent people - do. By my lights they are mistaken, not evil.
Why do so many same-sex marriage advocates find it so hard to see marriage traditionalists in the same light?
In a recent paper for the Heritage Foundation, Thomas Messner surveys the “naked animus’’ that was directed against supporters of Proposition 8, the California marriage amendment that voters approved last year. His meticulously footnoted study makes chilling reading, with example after example of the blacklisting, vandalism, intimidation, loss of employment, anti-religious hostility, and even death threats to which backers of Prop. 8 were subjected.
Yeah, I KNOW!!!
Of course not all proponents of gay marriage display such vehement intolerance. But far too many do to shrug it off as insignificant. And voters don’t have to be paranoid to wonder: If this is the kind of abuse that opponents of gay marriage can be subjected to now, how much more intolerance will dissenters face if gay marriage becomes the law?
After 31 losses in 31 states, it’s time for same-sex marriage activists to seriously consider a piece of advice Barney Frank offered a few years ago. “There’s something to be said for cultural respect,’’ the nation’s most prominent gay political figure said in 2004. “Showing a bit of respect for cultural values with which you disagree is not a bad thing. Don’t call people bigots and fools just because you disagree with them.’’
I don't know. He might not be the right person to ask:
Sunday Globe Censorship: Barney Frank Tells Gays to Go F*** Themselves
Fed Uses Frank to F*** America
Related: The End of the Gay
Yeah, I COULD NOT CARE ANY LESS about what you do with each other, just keep it behind closed doors, please!
What I don't like is the IN-YOUR-FACE PERVERSION and ATTITUDE with which the "alleged" GAY RIGHTS GROUPS engage.
Related (warning: some links contain sickening photographs):
Gay Bigots Reside in Massachusetts
Pornographic Protest Photos
Sickening San FranSickos doing it in public
(Blog editor's note: "shutting them up with “extreme prejudice” is NOT the SOLUTION RECOMMENDED or ADVOCATED here in ANY INSTANT or SITUATION)
Are we clear?
