"Five missing Americans probed for terror links" by Devlin Barrett and Zarar Khan, Associated Press Writer | December 9, 2009
WASHINGTON --Five young Americans captured in Pakistan are under investigation for possibly trying to meet up with a terror group, authorities said Wednesday. Two U.S. officials said one of the men left a "farewell" video behind saying Muslims must be defended, and showing images of U.S. casualties.
Frantic relatives and worried FBI agents have been searching for the five college-age men for more than a week, since their disappearance in late November. The missing students have family roots in the northern Virginia and Washington, D.C., area. One of the men is Ramy Zamzam, a dental student at Howard University, according to the U.S. officials....
Story already starting to stink and we just got started.
Pakistan police officer Tahir Gujjar said five Americans were picked up in a raid on a house on Sarghoda in the eastern province of Punjab. He did not identify the five, but said three are of Pakistani descent, one is of Egyptian descent and the other has Yemeni heritage....
Ibrahim Hooper, spokesman for the Council on American-Islamic Relations, said the five left the country at the end of November without telling their families. Hooper said after the young men left, some made phone calls to their families still claiming to be in the United States, but the caller ID information suggested they were overseas. The families, members of the local Muslim community, took their concerns to CAIR, which put them in touch with the FBI and got them a lawyer, Hooper said....
Samirah Ali, president of Howard University's Muslim Student Association, said the FBI contacted her last week about Zamzam, and told her he had been missing for a week. Ali said she's known Zamzam for three years and never suspected he would be involved in radical activities. "He's a very nice guy, very cordial, very friendly," Ali said, adding that he has a bubbly personality. "It really caught me off guard."
Pakistan has many militant groups based on its territory and the U.S. has been pressing the government to crack down....
And then THESE GUYS SHOW UP?!!
STINKOLA!!!!
Of course, the web version of the Globe gave me an update.
"5 Americans may have terror ties; Young men are detained in Pakistan" by Scott Shane, New York Times | December 10, 2009
WASHINGTON - Five young Muslim American men from the Washington suburbs who disappeared late last month were detained in Pakistan yesterday in a police raid on a house linked to a militant group, American and Pakistani officials said.
Yup, doctors, dentists, scientists..... give us all a break, MSM, and stop shoveling.
One of the men had left behind an 11-minute video calling for the defense of Muslims in conflicts with the West and suggesting that “young Muslims have to do something,’’ said one person who had seen the video, describing it as a farewell of sorts. Another official who viewed it called the video “disturbing,’’ though he said it was not a martyrdom video of the kind sometimes made by extremists planning suicide attacks.
The five young men were detained at a house in Sargodha in Punjab Province that was occupied by Khalid Farooq, the father of one of the young men, Umer Farooq, according to an official familiar with the case. The elder Farooq is believed to have ties to Jaish-e-Muhammad, a banned Pakistani militant group, the official said. Pakistani press reports also said officials had linked the house to the militant group.
The men, ranging in age from the late teens to early 20s, were not accused of any crime; their intent remained mysterious, and both American and Pakistani officials emphasized they were still gathering facts. One of the men, Ramy Zamzam, 22, is a dental student at Howard University, where he received an undergraduate degree this year with a major in biology and chemistry, according to his Facebook page.
And they just THREW IT ALL AWAY, huh?
But their disappearance and resurfacing in Pakistan came amid broad concern in the United States about a rash of terrorism cases that appeared to be homegrown.
Oh, and CUI BONO, NYT!!!
Nihad Awad, national executive director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, an advocacy group that is working with the families of the men, cautioned against hasty conclusions about the episode.
Good luck given the AmeriKan *ewspaper coverage you are going to get!
But Awad and the other leaders said the case - along with the recent recruitment of young Somali-American men in Minnesota by a violent group in Somalia - suggested that at least a small number of young American Muslims were drawn to extremist views. They pledged to start a nationwide campaign to counter such attitudes....
Related: FBI Case File: The New Informant
Catching on now, readers?
American and Pakistani officials said the five men flew from Dulles International Airport outside Washington and landed in Karachi on Dec. 1, the day their families approached the FBI. They traveled to Hyderabad, Pakistan, and then to Lahore, where they spent five days before moving on to Sargodha. Asked for assistance by the FBI, Pakistani security officers tracked the men to Farooq’s house, where they were taken into custody, the officials said. In addition to Umer Farooq, two of the other men - named in Pakistani press accounts as Ahmed Abdullah and Wakar Khan - were described by officials as of Pakistani descent. Zamzam’s family is Egyptian, and a fifth man, Aman Yasser, is of Yemeni descent, one official said. Some were born abroad, but all are now US citizens, US officials said.
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It truly is a war propaganda press when we get "terrorism" and "terror suspects" day after day after day while SO MANY OTHER THINGS in this world are IGNORED by the AmeriKan MSM and Boston Glob.
SARGODHA, Pakistan - Five young American Muslims arrested in Pakistan, including a Howard University dental student, asked representatives of an Al Qaeda-linked group for training but were turned down because they lacked references from trusted militants, a Pakistani police official said yesterday....
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"Al-CIA-Duh," yup!What do you mean there is no Al Qaeda?
You mean Al Qaeda doesn't even exist?
See why I have HAD ENOUGH of "Al-CIA-Duh," readers?
Farooq’s father, Khalid, also was detained. Pakistan police officials say the elder Farooq had a computer business in Virginia and shuttled between the United States and Pakistan.
Yeah, and let's toss that all away to be a "terrorist."
The young men apparently first tried to contact jihadist groups through Facebook and YouTube, then traveled to Pakistan to attempt personal meetings, a Pakistani diplomat in Washington said.
Now that has to be the DUMBEST THING a COLLEGE KID could do!!!
The LAST THING "terrorists" would do is DRAW ATTENTION TO THEMSELVES on the WEB!!!
The case is another worrisome sign that Americans may be susceptible to recruitment to terrorist networks from within the United States....
And CUI BONO, readers?
The five captured in Pakistan failed to catch on with any terror network, and succeeded only in raising suspicions among locals, who reported them to Pakistani police. US officials in Pakistan have visited the men, now in custody. Their disappearance from the Washington, D.C, area late last month - with one leaving behind a militaristic farewell video....
See how the BACK STORY keeps becoming MORE SINISTER?!!!
It's called PUSHING PROPAGANDA, folks!!!
“They were trying to link up to some groups, but there is no evidence for now that there was a definite plan,’’ said S.M. Imran Gardezi, press minister at the Pakistani Embassy in Washington.
WTF?!!
Police arrested the group in a home belonging to the uncle of one of the men. Gardezi said the uncle had past ties to extremist groups.
I was told he was a father!
Gardezi said that the men have not been turned over to the FBI and that Pakistan intended to carry out its own legal process.
Translation: the Pakistan government is going to hold them so they can't talk to Americans.
Another Pakistani law enforcement official, Usman Anwar, the local police chief in Sargodha, said the five are “directly connected’’ to the Al Qaeda terrorist network....
Oh, well, that settles it, then.
Also note the stark contrast in U.S. attitude with the detained hikers in Iran.
Interesting, huh?
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WASHINGTON - A senior State Department official said yesterday that the United States expects Pakistan to deport five Americans detained after they allegedly sought to join terrorist groups and left behind a video saying fellow Muslims must be defended.
But just above the MSM reported they were going to hold on to them!!!
While Pakistani officials have said the men admitted trying to connect with militant groups, an FBI note sent to American lawmakers said the bureau has “no information linking them to terrorist organizations.’’
But the Pakistani said yesterday there was NO DOUBT they were linked to 'Al-CIA-Duh" -- and judging by this U.S. reaction, they must be correct!!!!
The State Department official said yesterday that it is not yet clear whether the five men may have broken any Pakistani or US laws during their stay in Pakistan. The five allegedly told local investigators they were trying to connect with Al Qaeda-linked militant groups and intended to cross the border into Afghanistan and fight US troops there.... The official confirmed that US diplomats in Pakistan visited the detainees yesterday for a second time. Diplomatic security and FBI agents visited the men on Thursday.
Yeah, they are AGENTS of the United States government, folks -- and now we are trying to get them back!!!
There was no immediate indication when the five might be returned to the United States.
Then what is with the deceptive headline?
A local police chief in Pakistan also said yesterday that the five will most likely be deported.
Pakistan authorities say the men used the social networking site Facebook and the Internet video site YouTube to try to connect with extremist groups in Pakistan. When they arrived in Pakistan, they allegedly took that effort to the street.
I would have thought COLLEGE GRADUATES would have been SMARTER than that!!
They were reported missing by their families in the Washington area a week ago after one of them left behind a farewell video showing scenes of war and casualties and saying Muslims must be defended. Pakistani police detained them this week - along with one of their fathers - in Sargodha, a town in the eastern province of Punjab. The case has fanned fears that Americans and other Westerners - especially those of Pakistani descent - are traveling to Pakistan to join Al Qaeda and other militant groups.
How many times must I type CUI BONO, huh, readers?
Yeah, FANNING FEARS, huh?
It comes on the heels of charges against a Chicago man of Pakistani origin who is accused of surveying targets for the 2008 terrorist attacks in Mumbai.
Yeah, turns out HE is an AMERICAN AGENT!!!!
One of the five men being held is identified as an Egyptian American named Ramy Zamzam, a dental student at Howard University in Washington. The others were identified as Waqar Hussain, Aman Yamar, Ahmad Abdul Mimi, and Umer Farooq and his father, Khalid Farooq. Pakistani officials have given various spellings of their names. The FBI note said two of the young men are of Ethiopian descent, and two are of Pakistani descent....
Yeah, the spellings were fouled up, blah, blah, blah. This is like that endless list of phantom "Al-CIA-Duh" number 3's and 4's we are always allegedly wasting!
I'm SICK of LAME ASS GOVERNMENT and MSM EXCUSES!
Pakistan police officials say the elder Farooq had a computer business in Virginia and shuttled between the US and Pakistan.... Meanwhile, the youth director at the mosque where the young men worshiped said they were wholesome young people who never exhibited any signs of religious extremism....
Translation: They are PATSIES!!
The only question is DO THEY KNOW THAT?
Where they ON a MISSION and ONLY BUSTED because of the PAKISTANI LOCALS, readers?
Yeah, THEY can RECOGNIZE CIA, 'murka!!!
"Pakistan focuses on terrorist recruiter, hoping to expose network; Investigators say he asked US men to join jihadists" by Griff Witte and Shaiq Hussain, Washington Post | December 13, 2009
So can I.
Reminder, readers: the Washington Post is the CIA 's newspaper.
Straight from the horse's mou..., well, try the other end.
KABUL, Afghanistan - Pakistani authorities yesterday zeroed in on the alleged mastermind of a plot to send five Northern Virginia men to Afghanistan to kill US troops, saying they hope the case could help unravel a network of terrorist recruiters who scour the Internet for radicalized young men.
Oh, good thing they figured that out, huh?
From no connections to a major plot.
So what was their mission, a false-flag attack where?
Investigators said they were hunting for a shadowy insurgent figure known as Saifullah, who invited the men to Pakistan after first discovering them when one made comments approving of terror attacks on the Internet video site YouTube.
I really, really can NOT TAKE ANY MORE of the GARBAGE PROPAGANDA, folks!!!
Saifullah guided the men once they were in Pakistan, attempting to help them reach the remote area in Pakistan’s tribal belt that is home to Al Qaeda and its terrorist training camps. But a Pakistani intelligence official who had been briefed on the case said yesterday that Saifullah was unsuccessful in convincing Al Qaeda commanders that the men were not part of a CIA plot to infiltrate the terrorist network.
Oh, so THAT IS WHAT THEY WERE DOING THERE!
They ARE "Al-CIA-Duh," readers!!!!!
As a result, they were marooned for days in the eastern city of Sargodha, far from the forbidding mountains of the northwest that have become a terrorist haven. “They were regarded as a sting operation. That’s why they were rejected,’’ said the official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the case.
Because that IS WHAT THEY WERE, people!!!!
The official said the men were undeterred and were still trying to acquire the right endorsements to gain access to the Al Qaeda camps when they were arrested by Pakistani law enforcement. The case of the five - who remain in Pakistan and are being questioned by the FBI - underscores the critical role of recruiters in identifying potential terrorists and, perhaps more importantly, determining who can be trusted.
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You SEE WHO the "RECRUITERS" are, don't you?
Since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, US intelligence has made it a top priority to try to place human assets inside Al Qaeda.
America, this is IN YOUR FACE SHIT!!!!
US INTELLIGENCE IS AL-CIA-DUH!!!!
The organization’s recruiters act as gatekeepers, keeping out those who are not serious about their commitment to holy war, and those who could be spies.
And just how would they know, huh?
Would-be American recruits are treated by Al Qaeda with special scrutiny, analysts said. But they are also considered appealing to the group because of their potential to access US targets and because of their propaganda value.
I'm really having a hard time getting through this, folks.
Every paragraph is another log on the pfffft pile.
But Evan Kohlmann, senior analyst with the US-based NEFA Foundation, said terror groups have also become much more cautious in recent years about whom they allow in because US intelligence agencies have become specialists in their recruiting methods....
Yeah, I've seen this self-serving stink on TV. Of course, if he ever told the truth about "terrorists" and "terrorism" -- that they are all GOVERNMENT CREATED, FUNDED, and DIRECTED OPERATIONS -- he'd be off TV and out of work.
“Increasingly, recruiters are taking less prominent roles in mosques and community centers because places like that are under scrutiny. So what these guys are doing is turning to the Internet,’’ Kohlmann said.
PFFFFFFFFFTTT!!
Terror group operatives, and even freelance recruiters, troll jihadi social networking sites, attempting to establish relationships with young men who seem ideologically committed, and physically able, to commit violence in the name of radical Islam. In one case, a recruiter named Younes Tsouli is believed to have used such sites to identify dozens of aspiring insurgents for the war in Iraq - all without leaving his London basement.
Whatever, war press. Know what in one ear out the other means?
But Kohlmann said the case of the five from Northern Virginia was unusual because they were identified on a site with mass appeal. “The idea that YouTube would be a mechanism for making these connections, that’s something new,’’ he said, adding that it could be a troubling development for law enforcement because such sites are so vast they are difficult to monitor.
Right, that is why videos critical of Israel are taken down all the time.
Are you TIRED of the LIES, yet?
Guess the Patriot Act and all the other tyranny should be turned back because it isn't mattering anyway!
In most cases, it is the recruit who reaches out to radical websites and chat rooms in the hopes of finding someone to help make the introductions to a militant group.
That's when he comes in contact with his FBI instigator, I mean, informant.
“A recruiter does not radicalize a person from scratch,’’ said Manuel Torres, a terrorism specialist in Spain, where the Internet played a key role in influencing some of the perpetrators of the 2004 Madrid train bombings. “They deal with people who are already ready to die.’’
They were COLLEGE GRADUATES!!!
Recruiters who are satisfied that they have found a would-be terrorist who is serious, and not a spy, can then make the necessary introductions. “What they really serve as are facilitators, intermediaries to the jihadist world,’’ Torres said.
Amazing how the "experts" know so much about the inner workings of the "terrorists," huh?
In the case of the five men from Northern Virginia, their recruiter was unable to complete the introduction. The men - Ramy Zamzam, 22, Ahmad A. Minni, 20, Umar Chaudhry, 24, Waqar Khan, 22, and Aman Hassan Yemer, 18 - have not been charged with a crime.
????
But investigators say they have proudly admitted to flying to Pakistan on Nov. 30 to join the jihad, or holy war, against American forces in Afghanistan.
That's what the lying American government says.
Law enforcement authorities have said they probably would not have uncovered the men’s plans so quickly had it not been for family members who expressed concern when the men went missing. At least one of the men left behind a video described as containing jihadi overtones.
The case has surprised leaders of the mosque in the Alexandria area of Fairfax County, who said they had never seen the men expressing radical beliefs. The five were shifted from Sargodha yesterday to the provincial capital of Lahore, where they continued to face questioning. Pakistani officials said that while the men would ultimately be sent back to the United States to face charges, they were hoping to keep them in Pakistan while the investigation continues so they can use their statements to help track Saifullah and other members of his network.
But not charge them with a crime, huh?
If Iran did this we would be hollering to high heaven!
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And -- as is typical with AmeriKa's MSM -- they must have cleared the intestines with that latest pile of plop!
Not much left up the propaganda poop shoot:
KARACHI - Pakistani police yesterday seized luggage and a cellphone from a hotel where three of five Americans arrested on suspicion of militant links stayed, and a court ruled the men cannot be deported until judges review the case.
Police allege that the young Americans intended to join militants in the northwest tribal areas and then travel to Afghanistan before their arrest last week. The case has fanned fears that Americans and other Westerners are heading to Pakistan to link up with Al Qaeda and other militant groups.
I'm sure that is what this plate load of propaganda was meant.
Police searched the midrange Saddam Hotel in the southern city of Karachi, the country’s commercial hub, where some of the men stayed on Nov. 30 after their arrival in the country. They found five travel bags containing clothes, a cellphone, and a book, police official Abdullah Sheikh said. Hotel manager Mohammed Farooq Khan said the three left the hotel without informing management after staying one night. The book was “The Pact,’’ the best-selling true story of three young men from broken homes who pledged to support each other as they pursue academic dreams.
That sure does not sound like terrorists.
Sure they were not just VISITING RELATIVES?
The detainees are accused of using Facebook and YouTube websites to try and connect with extremist groups in Pakistan and are said to have established contact with a Taliban recruiter. They have not been formally charged with any crime. The court order was aimed at preventing deportation before the judiciary gets a chance to review the case.
Not very bright for colij cids.
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